New Faq

[hammer grimblood]

Hey guys there is a new FAQ up:

 

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/23/updated-faqs-and-boots-on-the-groundgw-homepage-post-2/

 

Lots of changes to our Wolf Guard and they changed the point cost of Ragnar and Wolf Claws. The good news is that our Wolf Guard can dual wield Plasma Pistols but I think we lost our 3rd weapon option. Terminators can take Combis and Storm Shields again though so that's useful for Pack Leaders.

[Deadnaughty]

Biggest WG change is that you cant take both Stormshields and Melee weapons which is a pretty big nerf.

No more SS + Frost Sword bikers.

 

Wolf claw also costs a point more which is fair since they were a +1 str Lightning claw for the cost of a normal Lightning claw. Still worth it 100% because +1 str is so good.

[wulfgar hammerfist]

If I'm reading it right, no more storm shield and melee weapon cavalry either.

[Evilmerlin]

No more triple weapon wolf guards but plasma pistol gun slingers are legit!

[Deadnaughty]

If I'm reading it right, no more storm shield and melee weapon cavalry either.

I dont normally use TWC so didn't notice but yeah, stopping TH/SS Thunderwolves is also a big nerf

 

Nvm, can still do this

Edited July 23, 2017 by Deadnaughty

[Evilmerlin]

If I'm reading it right, no more storm shield and melee weapon cavalry either.

You still have it. Replace bolt pistol for melee weapon.

[Bloody Legionnaire]

If I'm reading it right, no more storm shield and melee weapon cavalry either.

"Any model may replace its chainsword with a storm shield or an item from the Space Wolves melee weapons list." 

 

"Any model may replace it's bolt pistol with a boltgun, plasma pistol, or and item from the Space Wolves melee weapons list." 

 

No, TWC definitely still have the option... 

[hammer grimblood]

I don't see that restiction guys. Wolf guard Pack Leader on bike can only swap his bolt pistol out but regular Wolf Guard and Thunderwolves can change their chainswords for shields and pistols out for melee weapons.

 

Edit: Disregard as I see the above edits.

Edited July 23, 2017 by hammer grimblood

[hammer grimblood]

No more triple weapon wolf guards but plasma pistol gun slingers are legit!

I think we had to expect that change. Triple weapon Wolf Guard are awesome and a definite upgrade over all other veterans.

[MeatGrinder]

Is it just me or is the only real change that you cant have a chainsword and storm shield anymore? Makes sense to not get the extra attack tbh.

[wulfgar hammerfist]

Thanks for the quick clarification. That's what I get for reading stuff on my phone without my glasses! :p

[Valerian]

Page 130 – Space Wolves Chapter

Add ‘Company Ancient’ to the list of Space Marine units that can be from the Space Wolves Chapter.

Pages 150 – Grey Hunters, Wargear Options Change the sixth bullet point to read:

‘• The Wolf Guard Pack Leader may replace his

chainsword with a plasma pistol, storm shield or an item from the Space Wolves Melee Weapons list; he may also replace his bolt pistol with a plasma pistol or
an item from the Space Wolves Melee Weapons or Space Wolves Combi-weapons lists.’

Well, these guys are back in business.

[Hellrender]

yeh, i think they just removed the 3 weapon options from wolf guard, and added the SS + combi option, aswell as dual pistols or dual cc weapons.

 

nothing un expected really.

[lonewolf81]

ALSO THIS :

Q: If an ability allows me to add 1 to saving throws, does it apply to both normal saving throws and invulnerable throws?

A: Yes, unless otherwise stated.

Remember that invulnerable saves are unaffected by the +1 bonus models receive to their saving throws for the benefits of cover.

 

harald has a 2+ invu against shooting attacks

[Brother Hellion]

No more triple weapon wolf guards but plasma pistol gun slingers are legit!

Any model may replace its boltgun with a plasma pistol, storm shield or an item from the Space Wolves Melee Weapons or Space Wolves Combi-weapons lists; it may also replace its bolt pistol with a plasma pistol, storm shield or an item from the Space Wolves Melee Weapons list.’

 

So that means I can still do th/ss  for the WG but no extra guns, which kind of makes sense since we only have two arms. 

[Gherrick]

I was thinking we could use GK arms to mount SBs and still wield two weapons. I really hoped we could keep two CSs and a SB. Works out to 40 shots and melee per 10 man. With the faq, it drops to 40/30.

[Hellrender]

Q: If a model has two rules that allow it to ignore wounds, such as the Disgustingly Resilient ability and the Tenacious Survivor Warlord Trait, can I use them both? A: Unless stated otherwise, yes.

For example, if a model had the two aforementioned abilities and lost a wound, you could roll a D6 due to the Disgustingly Resilient ability and on a roll of 5+ that wound would be ignored. If you rolled less than 5, you could then roll another D6 because of the Tenacious Survivor Warlord Trait, and this time the wound would be ignored on a 6.

 

 

So that confirms, to those that still doubted, that bjorn can have both saves

[Heimer]

I like the clarification that Ragnar Blackmane's two wolves can be transported normally in vehicles - they can now get quite a long charge out of a rhino, since they have 12" movement.

[Alarik Nightrunner]

I'm taking credit for getting the techmarine keyword added to iron priests. I'm probably the only person concerned with servitors being useful though.

[MaveriK]

can my lone wolf in terminator armour have storm shield and chainfist?

[hammer grimblood]

can my lone wolf in terminator armour have storm shield and chainfist?

Yes Mav, Chainfists are back on the menu!

[Slave to Darkness]

Wait, so can I still take my Wolf Guard squads with Axe and Stormshields? If not GW has just invalidated 95% of my army.

[Evilmerlin]

Wait, so can I still take my Wolf Guard squads with Axe and Stormshields? If not GW has just invalidated 95% of my army.

You can still take it.replace Boltgun with Storm Shield, replace Bolt Pistol with Axe.

[Nharvey89]

So I was super excited when I saw the change to wolf guard, I did buy a load of Grey Knight arms and merrily hacked apart my models... Dam GW....

[Freman Bloodglaive]

If it looks too good to be true, it probably is.

 

The only Wolf Guard who can't take dual weapons is the Swift Claw leader. I guess he needs a free hand for beating Blood Claws. That's pretty much in line with the rules for every other Veteran unit in the game.