Plasmablasts Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 New FAQ for the main rule book just out. Gate of Infinity has been clarified: Yes, you do count as having moved (treated as arriving reinforcements). No, you don't as having Fallen Back if you Gate out of combat (I.e. from within 1" of enemy models). Valerian 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337038-main-rule-book-faq-gate-of-infinity-clarified/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Sirus Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Well atleast that has been resolved, as it was desperately in need of clarification. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337038-main-rule-book-faq-gate-of-infinity-clarified/#findComment-4829661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godeskian Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Reasonable. Not fantasic, but reasonable. Do you have a link perchance so I can see what other updates were done? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337038-main-rule-book-faq-gate-of-infinity-clarified/#findComment-4829871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamtro Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Also leaving combat via GoI or Personal Teleporters doesn't count as falling back. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337038-main-rule-book-faq-gate-of-infinity-clarified/#findComment-4829932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Reasonable. Not fantasic, but reasonable. Do you have a link perchance so I can see what other updates were done? https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/23/updated-faqs-and-boots-on-the-groundgw-homepage-post-2/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337038-main-rule-book-faq-gate-of-infinity-clarified/#findComment-4830079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adeptus Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Totally expected. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337038-main-rule-book-faq-gate-of-infinity-clarified/#findComment-4830412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waking Dreamer Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 We'll have to rely on the GK codex to improve our current viability for heavy weapons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337038-main-rule-book-faq-gate-of-infinity-clarified/#findComment-4830421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adeptus Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 We'll have to rely on the GK codex to improve our current viability for heavy weapons. I wouldn't count on it. I'd either be using power levels instead of points, or I'd be using stormbolters. A psilencer purgation squad sounds interesting but I don't have the models to trial it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337038-main-rule-book-faq-gate-of-infinity-clarified/#findComment-4830431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 I've noticed that the Inferno Cannon on an IG Hellhound (good mobility and protection) has the exact same profile, in all respects to the Heavy Incinerator, yet is half the cost. They really need to relook all of our ranged upgrade options. I'd maybe pay 20 points for one of those on a Dreadknight, but I'm not going to pay 40. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337038-main-rule-book-faq-gate-of-infinity-clarified/#findComment-4830675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Sirus Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 We'll have to rely on the GK codex to improve our current viability for heavy weapons. I wouldn't count on it. I'd either be using power levels instead of points, or I'd be using stormbolters. A psilencer purgation squad sounds interesting but I don't have the models to trial it. The Psilencer Purgation squad is very effective in my experience, with d3 damage it helps nullify fnp type rolls especially against orks and when the full squad hits a vehicle the d3 damage makes up for needing 5+/6+ to wound. I'll continue to use mine even if my first turn of shooting is slightly hamstringed as i normally gate them to be within 6" of the Grandmaster so its swings and roundabouts for how effective they'll be first turn Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337038-main-rule-book-faq-gate-of-infinity-clarified/#findComment-4830708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adeptus Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Hmm. I'm usually keeping my GM moving a lot as a multiplier for the beatstick portion of my army, so I don't think gating the Purgators up to him would be good for their long-term survival, but I can definitely see them forming a mid-table firebase in some terrain and in support of a long-range ven-dread. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337038-main-rule-book-faq-gate-of-infinity-clarified/#findComment-4831309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Sirus Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 I gate mine to GM if i've decided to deepstrike the GM and his accompanying units of paladins, as it can boost the alpha strikes potency if needed, its a very all or nothing strategy but it can take an opponent by surprise, i recently did it to an ork list and fired everything into his two 30 man boyz units, 16 dead in one unit and 14 from the other, it broke mob rule so he started losing orks to leadership, which ultimately won the game as he was stuck just out side of his deployment zone and i was able to Gate other units to objectives, but in hind sight it was a very high risk high reward gameplan as i was outnumbered 3 to 1, could have gone wrong very quickly. Myunch 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337038-main-rule-book-faq-gate-of-infinity-clarified/#findComment-4831376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adeptus Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 it was a very high risk high reward gameplan. You just described my strategy every time I play Grey Knights, lol! Zamtro and Godeskian 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337038-main-rule-book-faq-gate-of-infinity-clarified/#findComment-4831722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godeskian Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 it was a very high risk high reward gameplan. You just described my strategy every time I play Grey Knights, lol! And mine, you just haven't lived until your opponent looks at you in disbelief and says 'what do you mean your entire army is in my deployment zone' Adeptus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337038-main-rule-book-faq-gate-of-infinity-clarified/#findComment-4831772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trollbeard Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 it was a very high risk high reward gameplan. You just described my strategy every time I play Grey Knights, lol!And mine, you just haven't lived until your opponent looks at you in disbelief and says 'what do you mean your entire army is in my deployment zone' Haha I play the same way, it can really catch some people off guard, I tabled a farsight bomb list in 7th because he wasn't expecting me to be at his door step turn one. I feel with our limited model count we need everything to be in their face ASAP, to really maximize what we can do! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337038-main-rule-book-faq-gate-of-infinity-clarified/#findComment-4832452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_149 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 I dropped a gk librarian with cleansing flame behind a ig vehicle Park and wrecked half his army turn 1 2d6 Str 5 vs rear armour 10...those were the days! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337038-main-rule-book-faq-gate-of-infinity-clarified/#findComment-4837860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Glad they're actually addressing real questions with our army. Pretty much as expected for 'Gate', so that's a good sign for the codex changes. Adeptus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337038-main-rule-book-faq-gate-of-infinity-clarified/#findComment-4841555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 New FAQ for the main rule book just out. Gate of Infinity has been clarified: Yes, you do count as having moved (treated as arriving reinforcements). No, you don't as having Fallen Back if you Gate out of combat (I.e. from within 1" of enemy models). So you can still gate out of CC, and charge in the fight phase? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337038-main-rule-book-faq-gate-of-infinity-clarified/#findComment-4841931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffersonian000 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 New FAQ for the main rule book just out. Gate of Infinity has been clarified: Yes, you do count as having moved (treated as arriving reinforcements). No, you don't as having Fallen Back if you Gate out of combat (I.e. from within 1" of enemy models). So you can still gate out of CC, and charge in the fight phase? Yes. SJ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337038-main-rule-book-faq-gate-of-infinity-clarified/#findComment-4841938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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