Alpharius Omegon... Does anyone else hate this?

[Iron Father Ferrum]

 but when they went to the whole "are they loyal or not who knows maybe both" it became a silly meme with little or no substance

 

You do realize, I hope, that this question was hinted at from the very beginning?  Index Astartes IV tells us that the Alpha Legion's battle-cry is "For the Emperor!"  You can't cherry-pick.

[Wayniac]

 

 but when they went to the whole "are they loyal or not who knows maybe both" it became a silly meme with little or no substance

 

You do realize, I hope, that this question was hinted at from the very beginning?  Index Astartes IV tells us that the Alpha Legion's battle-cry is "For the Emperor!"  You can't cherry-pick.

 

I'm talking about before Index Astartes ;) 

[Lay]

And even Index Astartes told us their warcries were meant to mock and confuse imperials while giving a completely different reason for their betrayal.

[Iron Father Ferrum]

And even Index Astartes told us their warcries were meant to mock and confuse imperials while giving a completely different reason for their betrayal.

That rationalization is questionable since the article is written in character from the imperial perspective. They wouldnt know the truth.

[Lay]

What I meant is that nobody questioned the AL's allegiance based on that snippet of fluff before "Legion" came out.

[Nemisor]

What I meant is that nobody questioned the AL's allegiance based on that snippet of fluff before "Legion" came out.

 

yeah but no one questioned the lions loyalty, is corax invisible, did magnus deserve it, was the emperor just a big douche etc etc before certain HH books came out either. 

 

the whole thing with the fluff we had previously on the HH was that it was 10k years old and no one knew what was truth or fiction, that was the point. the HH books, rightly or wrongly set out to give us a new take on something we thought we knew. 

[adreal]

I thought everyone questioned the lions loyalty before the heresy books

 

The heresy books for me tell me that dark angels are loyal, dicks but loyal, and the joke that they are traitors is just that, a joke

[Panzer]

There are so many different versions of the fluff out by now that many people just go and cherry pick what they like and what not. ^^

[Sception]

I thought everyone questioned the lions loyalty before the heresy books

 

The heresy books for me tell me that dark angels are loyal, dicks but loyal, and the joke that they are traitors is just that, a joke

 

Another area where the HH series fluff changes and/or additions have been terrible, imo.  The Dark Angels deep sense of shame and obsession with stamping out evidence of their sins had a lot more pathos when there was still the possibility that their sins were real and their shame was warranted.

Edited August 4, 2017 by malisteen