Chaos codex release date 8/5/17

[Panzer]

I really hope the options for the Daemonic Steeds stay in some form. I need my Slaanesh Lord on Daemonic bike of doom. ^^

[Sception]

I can't imagine they'd be dropped altogether, the question is whether they'll stay as entirely separate dataslates, or go back to being wargear that you buy within the lord or sorcerer's entry.

[Panzer]

Well I couldn't imagine them dropping Bikes for loyalists either and it still happened. ^^

[Sception]

Wait, what?

[Trevak Dal]

Like bike chaplains and such. They don't sell it so it's a legacy Index unit.

[Panzer]

Chaplain, Librarian and Techmarines all lost their Bike option in C:SM (you can still use their Index datasheet for those options according to a FAQ tho).

[Sception]

Yet captains kept their bikes, despite not having a current model, either?  Huh.  Well, in that case, I could see the steeds being dropped altogether, as none of them have official models right now - apart from discs, but even then only in the 'exalted sorcerer' kit, which is technically a TS exclusive unit.

 

But even then, that still doesn't come out to the right number of units.  Again, -7 for steeds, +1 for exalted champion, still leaves us 4 sheets shy of 45, with nothing else new expected.

 

If just the sorcerer loses their steeds... that would be -3, which would actually fit to 45 sheets after you add the exalted champion.  Though that would leave in the fallen and Cypher, and I don't really expect them to appear in this book.

[Panzer]

I do expect them to be in that book. Where else should they be.

[Morovir]

There is a current model for a Captain on bike, albeit a White Scars specific one.

[Sception]

I do expect them to be in that book. Where else should they be.

 

Living in the indeces until the Fallen get their own codex, one that could be introduced any time since they don't need their own models.

[Panzer]

Hah, that's very much possible but I doubt it. They probably just get the Renegade Legion keyword and that's it. :D

[Prot]

I expect some point changes.... almost certainly I expect Abaddon to go down in points (Calgar did).

 

Obliterators will change... I almost guarantee it. Either in points or some ability tweak.

 

Also some things are probably disappearing. Some of the older options from the Index , and perhaps the super heavy will not make it in.

Edited July 28, 2017 by Prot

[Sception]

Hah, that's very much possible but I doubt it. They probably just get the Renegade Legion keyword and that's it.

 

No, they won't get any legion keyword, renegade or otherwise, because they're imperial units.  Same way they didn't get chapter keywords in the loyalist book because they're chaos units.  Their entire gimmick is that they're a joint imperial/chaos group, but that gimmick also means they don't really belong in either the generic SM codex or the generic CSM codex.

 

I very much doubt that they'll be in this book at all.

Edited July 28, 2017 by malisteen

[Panzer]

If they were imperial units they would've been in one of the imperial indexes. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[DreamIsCollapsing]

Plot twist : They will be in the V8 Dark Angel Codex split up in two : "loyalist" vs "Cypher's fallen". Well at least that would be the best imho. 

 

Well i'm waiting for my Emperor's Children Legion Tactics. Dunno what it could be tho, as CT aren't about a particular unit or weapon (that's more on the new Chapter specific stratagem).

Best guess would be the come back of Combat drug, would be even better as the day of random roll are over.  

[Sception]

If they were imperial units they would've been in one of the imperial indexes. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

If they are imperial units they'll have the 'Imperium" faction keyword, which they do.

[Panzer]

 

If they were imperial units they would've been in one of the imperial indexes. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

If they are imperial units they'll have the 'Imperium" faction keyword, which they do.

 

I was obviously joking... :D

[Sception]

oh, sorry.  :p

 

I don't actually own the Imperial books, so I don't know what is or isn't in them.

[Lord Abaia]

Although I expected to be wrong and for Grey Knights to come out first, August 5th pre-order was my hope for a CSM codex. It makes sense to me that they are sating the ravening masses by releasing a book with a broader range of sub-factions before something more niche like GK or DG. Although I think it was a forgone conclusion that DG would be the fourth in line since it will coincide with a model release.

 

After seeing the chapter specific stuff from the SM codex and with Traitor Legions still fresh in my mind, I'm pretty hyped for this new book.

[Panzer]

If August 5th really is the date, they better start leaking stuff soon. 8 Legions barely fits till 5th when they start releasing articles tomorrow. ^^

[Sception]

I'm also hype for this codex.  While I haven't been able to play much, I've enjoyed 8th edition so far, and I think the unit design for chaos, with a few lackluster exceptions, has been pretty good.  I'd love to get a lieutenant type character, I can't wait for daemon weapons, I'm eager to see what they do with the Black Legion traits.  I'm just excited all round.

[Panzer]

Aye. Even if I'm very unlikely to start my Slaanesh warband anytime soon due super outdated modelrange, I'm still very hyped to see what GW is about to give us rules-wise! Who knows, maybe I just start a Daemon-Engine pack while I'm waiting for updated infantry models. :D

[Khornestar]

Someone posted this on Facebook, tough to read but...

 

http://i.imgur.com/P827PZ2.jpg

 

3 CP to have a unit attack again at the end of the combat phase is one thing I could read. Veterans of the Long War is a different stratagem that appears to add +1 to wound.

Edited July 29, 2017 by Juggernut

[Sception]

Sounds pretty good.

[Panzer]

Someone posted this on Facebook, tough to read but...

 

http://i.imgur.com/P827PZ2.jpg

 

3 CP to have a unit attack again at the end of the combat phase is one thing I could read. Veterans of the Long War is a different stratagem that appears to add +1 to wound.

Wow that sounds awesome. And even tho it's incredibly tiny, the resolution is good enough to read it actually. Nice leak!