Karack Blackstone Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 https://treesforlife.org.uk/forest/mythology-folklore/bear/ https://www.druidry.org/library/animals/bear https://www.crystalinks.com/bears.html Decent search fu today. All bears have one thing in common: If you're going to use the Wolves rules for WH40K as a theme, you may want to ally in a LOT of Apothecaries, or deal with having a heavy love of Paw Priests, or whatever you go with as far as a rename of the Wolf Priest HQ type. Still, the idea remains the same. Bears are caring, loving, nurturing creatures, and your forces might need to reflect that at least a little. It's up to you as to how much; just please keep in mind, if there's ever a reason for the Long Claws to have a more Brotherhood unit (Tacticals), you're going to want to keep someone around, like a Dreadnought to watch over and escort the unit and keep a Shaman / Apothecary nearby to tend to them all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337343-new-paintschemechapter-the-ghost-bears-or-draugabj%C3%B6rn/page/3/#findComment-5355857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranulf the revenant Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 Spirit Grizzlies Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337343-new-paintschemechapter-the-ghost-bears-or-draugabj%C3%B6rn/page/3/#findComment-5355950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vykryl Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 Ever seen video of a grizzly chasing down an elk? Like a flesh and blood bulldozer, running over trees and through dead falls the elk has to hurtle or dodge. Sneaking creatures to, if the accounts in my California Grizzly book are accurate. Early European explorers reported that if you shot one and didn't kill it, it would play dead. Once you go close it would stop feigning and charge, sometimes with other bears that were hiding in the chaparral. Good totem for a Space Wolf successor :D Brutal and cunning. If you go with Ghost Bear, are you going to have a Guard/Rasalhague Dominion side force? This name does have the best sound to me, even if already used in the BattleTech universe. Bjorn Firewalker 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337343-new-paintschemechapter-the-ghost-bears-or-draugabj%C3%B6rn/page/3/#findComment-5355991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RikuEru Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 Right folks, I am trying to narrow down my names for this chapter and really need your help. Potential names include but not limited to: Thunder Bears (blend of mythological thunderbird and general guardian bear legends. Works for both cultural references) Iron Bears (armoured side of things. Picturing tribesmen meeting a marine for the first time, etc) Ghost Bears (bit mechwarrior and bears are not overly stealthy, but I like it. Was my origina thought) War Bears (brutal and to the point) What do you think? Really struggling to nail it down. Any advice and/or suggestions most welcome. Cheers, GM:) Additional Info: Iron Bears is also the name of an Alternative 6th Legion in the Brotherhood of the lost Sub-Forum here on B&C that has some American native vibes and a highly elaborated history, homeworld and concept. (Also a cool paint scheme that you could use for your Elites) Their Primarch was pretty close to Leman Russ- who, alongside Magnus, became the "Lost" 2. and 11. Primarch in their AU timeline. I think they also integrated surviving Space Wolves into their Legion. ...and I think that the offspring of Grizzly&Polar Bear Relationships are called Ghost Bears. They have a light creme colour that looks almost shiny, depending on the light. They used to be a rare sight, but become more and more common. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337343-new-paintschemechapter-the-ghost-bears-or-draugabj%C3%B6rn/page/3/#findComment-5356004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 (edited) I like Thunder bears (3rd fav) Ghost bears (2nd fav) Other thoughts Ursus minor Ursus major Astral bears (my favorite) The bear clans of the astral bears chapter, fleet pattern ursus minor(company strength), rarely deployed as ursus major (chapter strength). To add to rikus comments on real life ghost bears hybrids. They are also supposed to be absolutely massive. Pizzlys, grizzlors, bigger than there parents. Grislords Grizzlords Edited August 1, 2019 by Triszin Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337343-new-paintschemechapter-the-ghost-bears-or-draugabj%C3%B6rn/page/3/#findComment-5356098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrFlur Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 Stalking bears you've gonna feel their looks on to your skin you've gonna get the feel that someone is looking you You''ll now you're not alone anymore so be carfeull you're not going to see them, but they will be there and in one mistake, error, slip, lapse or blink of the eye... They will be raining fire, thunder and lightnings until their mission is acomplished Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337343-new-paintschemechapter-the-ghost-bears-or-draugabj%C3%B6rn/page/3/#findComment-5356130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightHowler Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 I think Draugabjörn is my favorite, but if you want the “gothic” version of their name I also like Ghost Bears. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337343-new-paintschemechapter-the-ghost-bears-or-draugabj%C3%B6rn/page/3/#findComment-5356175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saint Ragnar Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 "Pizzly" or "Grolar" bears are massive creatures. They are just downright scary when it comes to size and weight. Very rare but also very interesting coats. I think I saw somewhere they can get to 10'+ and weight over 1500 lbs. That aside, I think having a mix of the Draugabjorn and Ghost Bears similar to the Vlka Fenryka and Space Wolves. Have one name be what they refer to themselves as and close allies do and the other what the common folk call them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337343-new-paintschemechapter-the-ghost-bears-or-draugabj%C3%B6rn/page/3/#findComment-5356294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) Suggestion: Keep "Draugabjörn" as a Chapter name in the First Chapter Master's native Fenrisian, "Ghost Bears" as a Chapter name in the Low Gothic common to the rest of the Imperium. Use "Astral Bears," "Iron Bears," "Stalking Bears," "Thunder Bears," etc., as Company names, which are as original and individualistic as that of Space Wolves Great Companies. Pizzlys, grizzlors, bigger than there parents. Grislords Grizzlords I don't think the fusion names work; they're downright incomprehensible to anyone unfamiliar with bear species and isn't hyper-fluent in English. Best make up new names, e.g., "The Golem bear, so named for the exoskeletal plates protecting its vitals, which grant the beast exceptional resilience and make it resemble the golems of legend." Edited August 2, 2019 by Bjorn Firewalker NightHowler 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337343-new-paintschemechapter-the-ghost-bears-or-draugabj%C3%B6rn/page/3/#findComment-5356422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranulf the revenant Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 ...and I think that the offspring of Grizzly&Polar Bear Relationships are called Ghost Bears. They have a light creme colour that looks almost shiny, depending on the light. They used to be a rare sight, but become more and more common. I looked into it. You're right about the appearance of the hybrids (pizzly/grolar). Upon research though, "Ghost Bears" (Kermode Bears) are actually an subspecies of the American black bear (appearing in British Columbia) which in some cases also happen to be white ☺️. But I digress... (bears are awesome...) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337343-new-paintschemechapter-the-ghost-bears-or-draugabj%C3%B6rn/page/3/#findComment-5356459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantay VI Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Ghost bears, all day .. every day and twice on Sundays. PeteySödes 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337343-new-paintschemechapter-the-ghost-bears-or-draugabj%C3%B6rn/page/3/#findComment-5357922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graymane Posted March 24, 2020 Author Share Posted March 24, 2020 Hello folks, So, its been a little while since i posted here. Life/work certainly gets in the way eh? Anyways, thanks to a combination of enforced home working and my 40th birthday approaching along with some much needed leave, I'm hoping to have some quality time and resource to finally dedicate to this project. I have some bits from shapeways and am hoping to churn out some more Draugrbjorn in the very near future! :) I have already started work on my Redemptor dreadnought. Pics to follow shortly! :) Cheers, GM ranulf the revenant 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337343-new-paintschemechapter-the-ghost-bears-or-draugabj%C3%B6rn/page/3/#findComment-5495813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graymane Posted March 24, 2020 Author Share Posted March 24, 2020 As some of you may know, I love dreadnoughts. One of the primaris models I like the most is the Redemptor Dreadnought. So, i thought id start there. The thing that fascinates and horrifies me the most is the concept of the dreadnought 'pilot'. The last shreds of a marine entombed in a sarcophagus for all time, doomed to fight for eternity and the strengths that pilot must have. It is easy to look at the might of a war machine like a dreadnought and forget the man at its core. So I set myself the challenge of incorporating these mortal remains into the build... I knocked this up from an aggressor head, zombie body, the smoke launcher and hoses from some chaos land raider accessories i had laying about, all boxed in with a little plasticard. It was, however, promptly pointed out that hair growth could be an issue in a sarcophagus. So i gave him a haircut and magnetised the sarcophagus cover and tidied the whole thing with some green stuff. Also stripped some of the iconography off the cover... (test fit) As you probably noticed, I got the basis of the body built and then thought i might like to be able to change main weapons so magnetised them. I also changed the power fist into a power claw... Also converted the sarcophagus armour... Next but was to paint the pilot before building around him... So then i have build the basic chassis, decorated the sarcophagus cover and test fitted all the parts so far... So, that's it as of today. All comments and feedback most welcome as per usual. Let me know what you think so far! Cheers, GM Lord Ragnarok, Kassill, GrFlur and 7 others 10 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337343-new-paintschemechapter-the-ghost-bears-or-draugabj%C3%B6rn/page/3/#findComment-5495869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranulf the revenant Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Inspiring! Makes it more human for sure! Oh man, now I'll have to do the same with the model once I have one, or it won't feel right Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337343-new-paintschemechapter-the-ghost-bears-or-draugabj%C3%B6rn/page/3/#findComment-5495877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kassill Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 That dread looks great, I can't wait to see it all painted up! Graymane 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337343-new-paintschemechapter-the-ghost-bears-or-draugabj%C3%B6rn/page/3/#findComment-5495878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 I salute your efforts in customizing the Redemptor Dreadnought sarcophagus to show the interred Marine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337343-new-paintschemechapter-the-ghost-bears-or-draugabj%C3%B6rn/page/3/#findComment-5495894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Gonna have to take some ques from you when I redo my bjorn Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337343-new-paintschemechapter-the-ghost-bears-or-draugabj%C3%B6rn/page/3/#findComment-5495904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 That dread is fantastic! Great job on the pilot, it really is the little details that make stuff so good - tell me you magnetized the cover, or it's a very tight dry fit, because it would be a shame to permanently cover that work. Graymane 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337343-new-paintschemechapter-the-ghost-bears-or-draugabj%C3%B6rn/page/3/#findComment-5495909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graymane Posted March 24, 2020 Author Share Posted March 24, 2020 That dread is fantastic! Great job on the pilot, it really is the little details that make stuff so good - tell me you magnetized the cover, or it's a very tight dry fit, because it would be a shame to permanently cover that work. It's all magnetised :) Bryan Blaire and ranulf the revenant 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337343-new-paintschemechapter-the-ghost-bears-or-draugabj%C3%B6rn/page/3/#findComment-5495937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranulf the revenant Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Just saw this -> https://puppetswar.eu/bear-helmets.html I don't know, maybe you'll like it Graymane 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337343-new-paintschemechapter-the-ghost-bears-or-draugabj%C3%B6rn/page/3/#findComment-5496415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Just saw this -> https://puppetswar.eu/bear-helmets.html I don't know, maybe you'll like it Graymane 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337343-new-paintschemechapter-the-ghost-bears-or-draugabj%C3%B6rn/page/3/#findComment-5496435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graymane Posted March 29, 2020 Author Share Posted March 29, 2020 Greetings brothers! Bit of an update. This is a test fit/idea for the decorations. I have my custom shoulder pads fitted and have been adding a few bits to give it a more feral look. The bear pelt is supposed to look like its just been slung over the right shoulder and is swinging as as dreadnought moves. I know a lot of greenstuff will be needed to bulk it out and tie it in, but this should be enough to give you an idea, I hope. Also thinking some form of icon might be needed on the forward knee. What do you think so far? Cheers, GM NightHowler, TiguriusX, Bryan Blaire and 7 others 10 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337343-new-paintschemechapter-the-ghost-bears-or-draugabj%C3%B6rn/page/3/#findComment-5498334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krakendoomcool Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 Absolutely great pose. Loving the bear icon on one shoulder and bear pelt on the other (reminds me of Ragnars shoulders). This beast is shaping up to be amazing. Claws are a fantastic touch too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337343-new-paintschemechapter-the-ghost-bears-or-draugabj%C3%B6rn/page/3/#findComment-5498346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 The Redemptor looks most promising. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337343-new-paintschemechapter-the-ghost-bears-or-draugabj%C3%B6rn/page/3/#findComment-5498364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graymane Posted April 5, 2020 Author Share Posted April 5, 2020 Hello again brothers! Bit more of an update for you. I have finally finished adding bear and wolf pelts, glyphs and so on. Much green-stuffing, swearing, and several attempts later I'm quite happy with how the bear pelt turned out. Take a look and let me know what you think. :) And everything still works! Main weapon is interchangeable and most importantly, the sarcophagus can still be opened... Now, time to start painting this big beastie! All feedback /advice welcome as per usual. Please let me know what you think! Cheers, GM Bryan Blaire, GrFlur and ranulf the revenant 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337343-new-paintschemechapter-the-ghost-bears-or-draugabj%C3%B6rn/page/3/#findComment-5502199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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