Devastation of Baal

[plaguedroneofblight]

I am so confused by the timeline in 8th. 

 

So after Guilliman resurrects, we've fast forwarded about 100 years at the start of 8th. The rift is there, all but impassable, the Indomitus Crusade has begun... and in the middle of all this GW just says "oh and also Guilliman went and sorted Baal on the other side at the last second". 

 

How the heck did he do that? Even though the rift might be passable at some points, doesnt it make zero narrative sense to say "The empire is split, all is doomed, except our greatest hero just popped on over and saved a bunch of people aint no big thing". 

[Guest]

Its Guilliman and Cawl the "Wonder Duo of 41st Century"!!

 

I am kinda annoyed by that even more now that I am reading the Dante book. A great scene between Dante and the Sanguinor wondering if Baal will survive. Then we get a side not of what happened.

 

I like some of the Primaris models but their placement in the lore is so weak it ruins the whole current story. Then Guilliman and Cawl just fixing everything with ease and no in depth explanation. It almost makes you want to turn to Chaos.

[Walter Payton]

I think its important when we examine GW lore that we are only seeing pieces of a larger edifice that is still being built or still to be revealed.  The Primaris/Guilliman lore is only a few months old and it seems that we've heard only the basic outline and that the full story will be told in the upcoming BL novel.  

 

We can't really know whether or not the resolution of the Baal plotline is poor or not since we haven't really seen it yet. 

[the jeske]

As a tyranid player, with 20+ years of  GW leviathan hype behind him. I must say that the devastation of baal story line has a conclusion comperable to the  mass effect 3 ending. Probably not even that, because leviathan was not only totaly changed in the way how it was suppose to work, and made a lot smaller or the primaris+khorn demons alliance was going in to bilions of dudes.

[Ciler]

I am so confused by the timeline in 8th. 

 

So after Guilliman resurrects, we've fast forwarded about 100 years at the start of 8th. The rift is there, all but impassable, the Indomitus Crusade has begun... and in the middle of all this GW just says "oh and also Guilliman went and sorted Baal on the other side at the last second". 

 

How the heck did he do that? Even though the rift might be passable at some points, doesnt it make zero narrative sense to say "The empire is split, all is doomed, except our greatest hero just popped on over and saved a bunch of people aint no big thing". 

That's an interesting remark, actually. A lot of the fluff is questionnable, but that's downright inconsistent. 

[Joe]

I see there's still people that haven't read Dark Imperium.

[plaguedroneofblight]

Ah, so they kinda spoil the accompanying novel in the BRB? That's odd! Is it worth the effort to read Dark Imperium then, or is it `crud but tells us a bit about the new lore?

[Extropian]

Ah, so they kinda spoil the accompanying novel in the BRB? That's odd! Is it worth the effort to read Dark Imperium then, or is it `crud but tells us a bit about the new lore?

 

Yep.

[Joe]

It's a decent novel, if you can get around how much it jumps around. The prose is the high point; particularly the description of the forces of Nurgle arriving at Iax. It does fill in a lot of the otherwise unexplained fluff regarding how Guilliman's been operating in the wider Imperium, and how he's jumped across into the Dark Imperium a few times.

 

TL;DR; he's basically leading a reactionary force with an eye to shoring up places that are at risk of falling. He's limited in what he can do without any of his brothers around.

[plaguedroneofblight]

Excellent, thanks guys, I guess I'll get on it! Lovely to hear that the prose is good, as that's basically a prereq for me to enjoy any novel.

[Ciler]

I see there's still people that haven't read Dark Imperium.

Could you be a bit more specific ? Does DI adress that particular point ? And if so, how, in general guidelines and in a spoiler tag for people who'd want to read it ?

[Guest]

Just saw this 

 

http://www.blacklibrary.com/coming-soon/november/the-devastation-of-baal-ebook.html

 

Pretty sure that is Primaris Armor... Funny because IIRC BA and SW can't take Power Swords on their Primaris, but the cover there is a BA carrying a Power Sword.

[Xenith]

It's not primaris armour - Look at the knee pads and the abs

[Guest]

It's not primaris armour - Look at the knee pads and the abs

 

hmm the cut out from the neckguard is throwing me off also the abs look like a plate hanging down and not part of the armor itself. Hope the BA aren't saved simply due to Primaris Marines save the day again and actually have a decent story.

[Xenith]

The cut in the gorget and ab plate are exact copies of sanguinary guard armour. Unfortunately. It's meant to be representative on the model, but looks silly in art.

[Sete]

I actually like the art.