Kastor Krieg Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 It's only a rumor, but from someone who has seen the GK codex. They now have... HNNNHHH. They now have...PSYKER CHAPLAINS No more GK friends. Burn the witches to the ground. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337658-friendship-ended-with-gk-now-cf-are-my-best-friends/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 If you zoom in on the army shoot image on the Warhammer community site you can see the limited edition chaplain with GK colours. As well as the nomral terminator captain and librarian. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337658-friendship-ended-with-gk-now-cf-are-my-best-friends/#findComment-4845600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted August 5, 2017 Author Share Posted August 5, 2017 So a Chaplain-witch, a Captain-witch and a WITCH-WITCH?!+ HERESY! + Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337658-friendship-ended-with-gk-now-cf-are-my-best-friends/#findComment-4845603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegir_Einarsson Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Maby, maby, maby..... I'll buy a model If it will be Nice sculpted. As i can see on This blurry picture model is quite Nice. The one with skull helmet near LR. But. Chaplain psyker is nothing good, it fluff wise mapy it's some point because Every GK i psyker, And i think that They need some eclesy too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337658-friendship-ended-with-gk-now-cf-are-my-best-friends/#findComment-4845614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallenAutarch Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Acorrding to the new space marine dex were not meant to hate SM psykers anymore and should the emperor decree it we would be happy to have them back...... oh dear...... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337658-friendship-ended-with-gk-now-cf-are-my-best-friends/#findComment-4845624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted August 5, 2017 Author Share Posted August 5, 2017 Yeah, this fluff needs purging. ABHOR THE WITCH Aboard the Eternal Crusader, the Battle Barge that serves as High Marshal Helbrecht’s flagship and mobile fortress monastery of the Chapter, lies the Hall of Records, a vast archive where a legion of scribes and servitors toil to record the history and deeds of the Black Templars’ far-flung forces. Such duties of record keeping would normally fall to a Chapter’s Librarians, but the Black Templars Chapter boasts not a single psychic Space Marine amongst its ranks. It is uncertain how, or when, the Black Templars ceased to field Librarians, for with their disappearance, much of the Chapter’s history was also lost. Outsiders suggest that as the Chapter came to worship the Emperor as a god, they took his decree at the Edict of Nikaea to disband their Librarius divisions as holy law. Others whisper that the Black Templars’ gene-seed has somehow deteriorated, or that their Librarians were slain during a great war in the Chapter’s history. Some scholars point to the Black Templars’ final battle to end the Catelexis Heresy of M34, and the apocalyptic psychic death-screams that tore through the warp after the slaying of the Cacodominus, as another possible explanation. Whatever the truth, the Black Templars have come to accept the loss of their Librarians as part of the Emperor’s divine plan. If the Emperor decides to once again bless the Black Templars with Librarians, they will embrace it, but until that day, they will wage battle without these powerful warriors at their side. Outsiders mistakenly interpret the lack of Librarians within the ranks of the Black Templars Chapter, and the fury with which its battle-brothers slay Chaos Sorcerers, as an intolerance of all psykers. This is not the case; though the Black Templars do not traditionally number psykers amongst their ranks, they hold special reverence for Astropaths, seeing them as holy disciples who have actually communed with the Emperor. Navigators are similarly honoured, for their psychic blessing allows them to see the divine light of the Astronomican and guide the Black Templars through the warp to deliver righteous retribution against the Emperor’s enemies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337658-friendship-ended-with-gk-now-cf-are-my-best-friends/#findComment-4845662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxichobbit Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Maby, maby, maby..... I'll buy a model If it will be Nice sculpted. As i can see on This blurry picture model is quite Nice. The one with skull helmet near LR. But. Chaplain psyker is nothing good, it fluff wise mapy it's some point because Every GK i psyker, And i think that They need some eclesy too. The model featured is a limited edition model. I doubt it'll be available for general release, given the ridiculous amount of hoops you had to jump through to get one. Yeah, this fluff needs purging. ABHOR THE WITCH Aboard the Eternal Crusader, the Battle Barge that serves as High Marshal Helbrecht’s flagship and mobile fortress monastery of the Chapter, lies the Hall of Records, a vast archive where a legion of scribes and servitors toil to record the history and deeds of the Black Templars’ far-flung forces. Such duties of record keeping would normally fall to a Chapter’s Librarians, but the Black Templars Chapter boasts not a single psychic Space Marine amongst its ranks. It is uncertain how, or when, the Black Templars ceased to field Librarians, for with their disappearance, much of the Chapter’s history was also lost. Outsiders suggest that as the Chapter came to worship the Emperor as a god, they took his decree at the Edict of Nikaea to disband their Librarius divisions as holy law. Others whisper that the Black Templars’ gene-seed has somehow deteriorated, or that their Librarians were slain during a great war in the Chapter’s history. Some scholars point to the Black Templars’ final battle to end the Catelexis Heresy of M34, and the apocalyptic psychic death-screams that tore through the warp after the slaying of the Cacodominus, as another possible explanation. Whatever the truth, the Black Templars have come to accept the loss of their Librarians as part of the Emperor’s divine plan. If the Emperor decides to once again bless the Black Templars with Librarians, they will embrace it, but until that day, they will wage battle without these powerful warriors at their side. Outsiders mistakenly interpret the lack of Librarians within the ranks of the Black Templars Chapter, and the fury with which its battle-brothers slay Chaos Sorcerers, as an intolerance of all psykers. This is not the case; though the Black Templars do not traditionally number psykers amongst their ranks, they hold special reverence for Astropaths, seeing them as holy disciples who have actually communed with the Emperor. Navigators are similarly honoured, for their psychic blessing allows them to see the divine light of the Astronomican and guide the Black Templars through the warp to deliver righteous retribution against the Emperor’s enemies. I don't play Black Templars, but if I did I wouldn't use witches. Stay zealous my friends. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337658-friendship-ended-with-gk-now-cf-are-my-best-friends/#findComment-4845670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciler Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Confirmed Chaplain pysker : https://youtu.be/OWrG8DofaFA?t=9m29s Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337658-friendship-ended-with-gk-now-cf-are-my-best-friends/#findComment-4845672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
balordazul Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337658-friendship-ended-with-gk-now-cf-are-my-best-friends/#findComment-4845690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castellan Doren Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 We had freinds to begin with? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337658-friendship-ended-with-gk-now-cf-are-my-best-friends/#findComment-4845696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Why...just why do they need a chaplain? I don't get it. They're fighting demons for eons and not one did faulter. They were meant to be the epitome of psionic warriors. Since when did GW decide that they need a morale boost? This contradicts everything the GK stood for, imho. Don't like it. Glad that I don't play. This way, I'm able to ignore "certain" parts of fluff. :P Regarding the "BTs would use psykers". Well, although I wouldn't do, I can see that the BTs would accept them IF the Emperor would resind Nikaea. But still, I abhor the witch since ever. I never emphasized with wizards, always being the Knightly / Paladin guy. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337658-friendship-ended-with-gk-now-cf-are-my-best-friends/#findComment-4845697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honda Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 There is only one reason for this occurring that I can see. In these new darkest of times, a brighter, more incendiary starter is needed to ignite the massive pyres of witches we will create. Perhaps witch chaplains just burn faster and hotter than typical witches. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337658-friendship-ended-with-gk-now-cf-are-my-best-friends/#findComment-4845700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal_Roujakis Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Acorrding to the new space marine dex were not meant to hate SM psykers anymore and should the emperor decree it we would be happy to have them back...... oh dear...... You mean 6th ed.? The one whose lore was mainly written by Matt Ward? they brought that back? Yeah, I don't care much for that... They fixed that with Fall of Cadia books... there was a moment there when the Templars found out Greyfax was a witch and it took some effort to stop the Marshal from putting a hole through her face and just stopped because of her rank within the Imperium... that's the one I'm sticking with... not the "I wanna Librarian" nonsense... 4+ Deny the Witch ftw!!!! imho, I read through the old Ben Counter GK: Omnibus, in there was a GK Chaplain and imho it made more sense for them to actually have a Chaplain than a Librarian... the Chaplain's job was to inter fallen GK, bless their weapons and wargear, clear their minds, aid them in meditating to find their focus during the assailant of daemons and sorcerers and be a keeper of lore for the banishment of daemons and the secret names... They had the job of Librarians and Chaplains in a normal Chapter, since they are already all technically Librarians and they need a compass for whenever they Exterminatus an entire planet just because of 1-2 daemons... A librarians job was just mainly to keep the Librarius functioning, and in a Chapter full of psykers, he had the most redundant job... I would actually prefer if GK didn't have Librarians in an army already full of them, and instead had Chaplains, which would instead act as Librarians and Chaplains in the tabletop for GK... it would just make 100% more sense... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337658-friendship-ended-with-gk-now-cf-are-my-best-friends/#findComment-4845711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honda Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 They fixed that with Fall of Cadia books... there was a moment there when the Templars found out Greyfax was a witch and it took some effort to stop the Marshal from putting a hole through her face and just stopped because of her rank within the Imperium... that's the one I'm sticking with... not the "I wanna Librarian" nonsense... 4+ Deny the Witch ftw!!!! This. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337658-friendship-ended-with-gk-now-cf-are-my-best-friends/#findComment-4845714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Stay Zealous my friends Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337658-friendship-ended-with-gk-now-cf-are-my-best-friends/#findComment-4845765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Abaddon is coming! ~So? It means these are the end times! ~Nonsense. And there are Witch Chaplains now! ~Okay, maybe you were on to something... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337658-friendship-ended-with-gk-now-cf-are-my-best-friends/#findComment-4845778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Chaplain Matthias+ Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Originally, during the great crusade, weren't chaplains supposed to be the ones who made sure that the legion were following the emperor's edict against librarians? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337658-friendship-ended-with-gk-now-cf-are-my-best-friends/#findComment-4845937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciler Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Originally, during the great crusade, weren't chaplains supposed to be the ones who made sure that the legion were following the emperor's edict against librarians? Partially, yes, but not only. You have to remember that the institution of the chaplains was started by the Word Bearers... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337658-friendship-ended-with-gk-now-cf-are-my-best-friends/#findComment-4845955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Chaplain Matthias+ Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 I do remember that, yeah. I just also remembered reading somewhere that one role was to enforce the emperor's decree about psykers specifically, and to make sure there isn't deviation from the imperial truth more generally. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337658-friendship-ended-with-gk-now-cf-are-my-best-friends/#findComment-4845981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 The reasonable part of my brains is like "Well, they're all witches, so it make sense that their different roles are all witch-something" Then the Templar part of my brain is like "so it makes sense they also got... wait? Witch-chaplains? BURN EVERYTHING!" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337658-friendship-ended-with-gk-now-cf-are-my-best-friends/#findComment-4845999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 I thought each and every one of the Grey Knights are psykers? A Grey Knights "witch" Chaplain shouldn't surprise anybody who knows of their existence. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337658-friendship-ended-with-gk-now-cf-are-my-best-friends/#findComment-4846010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 If I recall correctly, chaplains were originally made after the edict of nikea to uphold the Imperial Truth and help maintain the purity of an Astartes Legion's dedication and fidelity to the Emperor's commands. And among those were the banning of librarians. So chaplains were originallyamong things, an anti-librarian police marine sort of. (Anyone correct me on this if it's off) hence why a librarian-chaplain is extra offensive to us witch-haters. It does make sense though given that every GK is a filthy witch :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337658-friendship-ended-with-gk-now-cf-are-my-best-friends/#findComment-4846078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spanish Inquisitor Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 So chaplains were originallyamong things, an anti-librarian police marine sort of. So I need MOAR chaplains ! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337658-friendship-ended-with-gk-now-cf-are-my-best-friends/#findComment-4846147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3m01iti0n Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 That fluff is utter trash. Next campaign, an EC will have a vision from the Emperor and unlock his latent witch powers. Between this and Primaris contradicting the backwards Imperium mentality of "no new tech, the older the better", 40K is moving away from what I fell in love with. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337658-friendship-ended-with-gk-now-cf-are-my-best-friends/#findComment-4846277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castellan Doren Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 That fluff is utter trash. Next campaign, an EC will have a vision from the Emperor and unlock his latent witch powers. Between this and Primaris contradicting the backwards Imperium mentality of "no new tech, the older the better", 40K is moving away from what I fell in love with. If the fluff changes to much, i'll make a splinter chapter imposing the oldest beliefs. Or just choose to ignore the modern changes, stating we didn't get the memo. I'm all for the game changing, but i believe the core aspects of each army should stay the same. I'm still not running scouts or devastators. If they impose librarians on us, i'll not run them either. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337658-friendship-ended-with-gk-now-cf-are-my-best-friends/#findComment-4846290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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