Seizeman Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 The glaive also wounds less than the hammer, specially because the glaive +1 strenght is only relevant vs t4 and 5, while the +4 on the hammer is relevant against everything. The choice to have a lot of dudes or not is pretty much yours. But anyway, each 5-man unit shoots 20 times per phase, and you should play a few of those, every razorback shoots 12 times plus a storm bolter, the stormraven makes 24 bolter shoots (and maybe a twin assault cannon). Honestly, the grey knights are right now one of the best armies for anti-infantry, and I've found the games against mass infantry to be really really easy. Any decent GK army kills 60+ orks per shooting phase. In fact, the biggest struggle for us is being able to efficiently kill transports to access the soft targets inside. That why you don't pick the glaive that kills one extra gaunt per phase, but the hammer that deals 10 wounds to a vehicle instead of 4. skarn 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337681-relics-of-titan-discussion-area/page/2/#findComment-4847195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everon Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 I know this might be a bit random, and hes not a relic, but I noticed many people saying the GM NDK and the cuiras, except he can't take it. Teleportarium the Techmarine in for the auto heals on the vehicle chasis of his perhaps? So no 5++ but every turn is a heal d3 wounds of that NDK or any thing else around him vehicle wise. *shrugs* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337681-relics-of-titan-discussion-area/page/2/#findComment-4847233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 If only our techmarine wasnt like 50 points overcosted. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337681-relics-of-titan-discussion-area/page/2/#findComment-4847287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everon Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 I concur, just saying. It is an option if that's what you are looking for Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337681-relics-of-titan-discussion-area/page/2/#findComment-4847297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soder Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 (edited) Do they allow the GMNDK to take a relic? Mainly the cuirass? I read this as well, that it no longer replaces terminator armour. 5+ "fnp" seems to be pretty rare these days from what I've seen so far of 8th edition stuff. I'll probably always take it Edited August 10, 2017 by Soder Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337681-relics-of-titan-discussion-area/page/2/#findComment-4851253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Nope. It's infantry only. :( Soder 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337681-relics-of-titan-discussion-area/page/2/#findComment-4851324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Which character would you use the Relic Hammer on? GM for the aura and stats? Cheaper libby, or even the cheaper Chappy with his fight phase only reroll? Someone else? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337681-relics-of-titan-discussion-area/page/2/#findComment-4851617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seizeman Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 I'm probably only having GMNDKs and named characters for HQ's. So I will end using the liber daemonica most of the time XD The only other character I could see myself playing that can use relics is the apothecary, which is actually very good. He could use either the hammer or the cuirass, and I'm not sure one os clearly better than the other in this case. But in general, every GK character should use a hammer (except for the librarian, maybe), and any of them would make good use of the relic one. By the way, I don't think you can take anything but the crozius on the chaplain, so no hammer for him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337681-relics-of-titan-discussion-area/page/2/#findComment-4851638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Ah yeah. Only cuirass / fury for the chappy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337681-relics-of-titan-discussion-area/page/2/#findComment-4851697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adeptus Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Soulglaive seems kinda redundant, especially on a GM since he's already re-rolling to hit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337681-relics-of-titan-discussion-area/page/2/#findComment-4852657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Could slap it on a BroCap, but yeah kinda not seeing the merit myself at the minute. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337681-relics-of-titan-discussion-area/page/2/#findComment-4852848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macabre Slanneshi Prince Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Librarian is probably the best bet for the Glaive. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337681-relics-of-titan-discussion-area/page/2/#findComment-4853198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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