Firepower Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 If only they weren't so hideous...and bloody expensive! Freaking he'll that's a lot of cash for 3 models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337763-a-guide-to-slaying-the-heretic/page/3/#findComment-4852289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banjulhu Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 I suppose the question becomes what is has more bang for the buck, 5 LC Termies or 3 Assualt Cents? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337763-a-guide-to-slaying-the-heretic/page/3/#findComment-4852309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciler Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Yes I'm not fond of the bulk and static pose of the dev cents. Plus they're not very templary in concept. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337763-a-guide-to-slaying-the-heretic/page/3/#findComment-4852325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydonianDragoon404 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 (edited) Once I finish my Storm Raven, I'll be heavily considering some Assault Centurions as my next project. They seem to be a very attractive heavy hitting "dragon slayer" unit, equipped with melta guns and really nasty CC weapons. Stuff three of them and Helbrecht in a Storm Raven and your opponent will be forced to make some choices about targeting priority.  I too despise the Centurion sculpt. However, I found really awesome conversions not too long ago, can't remember where from, the guy used the Forge World Iron Hands kill bots, the ones that the Iron Warriors Primarch used as body guards. Basically they looked like giant Thunder Hammer Storm Shield Terminators. Super cool. If I can find the picture again I'll post it up.  I'm going to try the unit out via proxy a couple times first with some Kastelans I have for my Admech army before I sink the cash and time into the project. I'm thinking two of them with hammers, then getting the unit's Sergeant a Dreadknight sword. Yeah... that sounds good... Edited August 10, 2017 by SydonianDragoon404 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337763-a-guide-to-slaying-the-heretic/page/3/#findComment-4852465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegir_Einarsson Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 (edited) You mean This:  https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-PL/Iron-Circle-Domitar-Ferrum-Battle-automata  Tes they're Great models:) Edited August 10, 2017 by Aegir_Einarsson Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337763-a-guide-to-slaying-the-heretic/page/3/#findComment-4852533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 And I thought the Centurions were expensive Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337763-a-guide-to-slaying-the-heretic/page/3/#findComment-4852587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydonianDragoon404 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 http://www.coolminiornot.com/371023There's the conversions I was talking about. Now I'm not so sure that's the model he used. But I know these are definitely conversions of some kind. Ebon Hand 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337763-a-guide-to-slaying-the-heretic/page/3/#findComment-4852596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal_Roujakis Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 You mean This:  https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-PL/Iron-Circle-Domitar-Ferrum-Battle-automata  Tes they're Great models:)  Those are more of Contemptor Dreads than Centurions... they're massive!   http://www.coolminiornot.com/371023  There's the conversions I was talking about. Now I'm not so sure that's the model he used. But I know these are definitely conversions of some kind.  Those are just the basic Centurions with a lot of Greenstuff work, a lot of plasticard work and a lot of talent...   Yes I'm not fond of the bulk and static pose of the dev cents. Plus they're not very templary in concept.  The static pose and bulk is understandable (although I like the bulk...) but their concept is very much less of Templars and very much more of the Imperial Fists... which Templars originated from... I feel that Templars who feel more inclined towards defense and heavy weapons shooting would band together to form semi-Devastator Squads or Devastator Centurion Squads... they just feel that "FORTIFY EVERYTHING" urge that Rogal Dorn seems to always have every few weekly cycles :p Ebon Hand and Othniel's Blade 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337763-a-guide-to-slaying-the-heretic/page/3/#findComment-4852598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydonianDragoon404 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Yeah it's unfortunate that there aren't any proper 3rd party options for Centurions that are a bit less bulky looking. There's just not a lot out there that is the proper scale. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337763-a-guide-to-slaying-the-heretic/page/3/#findComment-4852640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skoll Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Honestly could maybe bulk out primaris aggressors and call em centurions? Â I find the aggressor sculpt much more palatable SydonianDragoon404 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337763-a-guide-to-slaying-the-heretic/page/3/#findComment-4852699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydonianDragoon404 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Anyone have a picture or can take one of the two side by side? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337763-a-guide-to-slaying-the-heretic/page/3/#findComment-4852709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal_Roujakis Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Anyone have a picture or can take one of the two side by side? Â They're the same height as Primaris... and Primaris are the same height as Centurions... so they would be a decent substitute if you can go past the Starcraft armor design... Â Personally, I don't like them... too sci-fi futuristic... I prefer staying steampunk, gothic grimdark design... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337763-a-guide-to-slaying-the-heretic/page/3/#findComment-4852724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydonianDragoon404 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Primaris marines and Centurions are really the same height? Hmmmm Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337763-a-guide-to-slaying-the-heretic/page/3/#findComment-4852732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciler Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Another bit of information to consider. Leaks on the Chaos codex seem to indicate that specific units (such as noise marines for EC, plague marines for death guard) are elite and unlike in V7 do not get changed to troops if the warlord/detachment is of the relevant god. Â This means that to avail of their version of objective secured they will need cultists or regular chaos marines, that will be much easier to shift. Marshal_Roujakis 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337763-a-guide-to-slaying-the-heretic/page/3/#findComment-4852888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebon Hand Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I hear they can also take deamons as troops. That could be particularly nasty... Looking forward to seeing the codex for myself. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337763-a-guide-to-slaying-the-heretic/page/3/#findComment-4853500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadman Wade Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I've played against summon-heavy Word Bearers. Summoning daemons isn't nowhere as annoying as it was before, it's just a way to deploy a unit you need in a right situation, not spamming free squads. Non-Khorne Chaos Lords are weak, basic marine Captain has better weapons and better retinue options as well. Daemon Prince with two claws is a beast though, he's harder to kill than in 7th and has more attacks. Cultists hordes look menacing, but with new LRC we can wipe dozens of them in a single volley of fire. Big squads with low morale are harder to use and easier to kill. Chaos marines lost an option to take additional CCWs, so they can't rely on high number of attacks in close combat. My vehicle-heavy list worked quite well. I think that a single Crusader squad with chainswords supported by a Chaplain is a decent counter-charge, but I'm not sure about taking more melee squads. It looks like "go full melee or don't take melee at all" situation, with the amount of shooting in 8E you need to put a lot of points into melee squads to reliably get into close combat with space marines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337763-a-guide-to-slaying-the-heretic/page/3/#findComment-4853529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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