Unit + tactics + strategium = combo?

[yodaid764]

So just getting back into the game and looking thru the rules and new Marine Codex, I have noticed a great combo for IF/CF. After doing the math in my head, I was sold on Aggressors with the insane potential damage output from each having 6 shots (if they moved), 12 if they didn't, plus Pedro and using the Bolter Drill strategy.

 

 

 

Example: Pedro + Aggressors with bolt gauntlets + 1 CP IF strategium Bolter Drill = lots of dice, plus rerolls and more dice. In a game last night I rolled around 27 dice to hit and around 17 wounds vs a squad of opposing marines. They all died.

 

 

 

What combos are you seeing with other chapters?

Edited August 10, 2017 by yodaid764

[uldrick]

assault centurions(flamers and hurricane bolters)+vulkan+flamecraft (1cp) stategium, lots of flamer wounds (re-rollable), add to that a lot of shooting from the HB (with re-rolls of 1's from vulkan) and then a very scary charge!

will deal on average:  

vs Orks:
26.3 dmg on shooting
8.14 dmg on melee (24.4 if targets have 3 wounds)
a potential of 50.7 wounds, (or 34 dead orks of 1 wounds each, a whole squad)

vs MEQ:
10.5 dmg on shooting
6.78 dmg on melee (20 if targets have 3 wounds)
a potential of 30.5 wounds, which is scary at the very least.

VS TEQ:
5.2 dmg on shooting
1.36 dmg on melee (4.08 if targets have 3 wounds)
a potential of 9.28 wounds

vs tanks (T8, 3+)
4.66 dmg on shooting
16.28 dmg on melee (assuming multiwounds capacity)
a total of 20.94 wounds, which can kill everything short of some super-heavies and lord of war.

you could even swith 2 flamers for 2 meltaguns on one of them to add flexibility at the cost of horde killing power.

if you can deliver these babies with a storm raven, they will wreck whatever they hit BUT are vulnerable to anti-tanks firepower sinc they have no invulnerable save
 

[Stoic Raptor]

Bolter Drill was sick in 7th - adding Pedro now makes it even more brutal (as advertised).  Aggressors, Auto rifles and Assault Bolters to fire while Advancing and you can mow down a horde.

[Shade3413]

So am I missing something there with the first combo? The combo's quoted abilities require a chapter designation. One is iron fists the other crimson fists. Am I kissing something here it does not appear that this would work.

[Lemondish]

So am I missing something there with the first combo? The combo's quoted abilities require a chapter designation. One is iron fists the other crimson fists. Am I kissing something here it does not appear that this would work.

I think the Crimson Fists are a successor chapter of the Imperial Fists, which is why they get access to the stratagem, right?

[Claws and Effect]

So am I missing something there with the first combo? The combo's quoted abilities require a chapter designation. One is iron fists the other crimson fists. Am I kissing something here it does not appear that this would work.

Imperial Fists, not Iron Fists. You're confusing them with the Iron Hands.

 

The Crimson Fists are a Second Founding successor of the Imperial Fists. Since they don't have their own chapter tactics, they use the tactics of their founding chapter.