Dantay's VI Legion. Hvarls Headtakers

[Dantay VI]

Hi Honda. Glad it is on the right track. That is one of the images I store in my gallery for ideas.

I have no access to gs just now, as I am on the oil rig just now, so it is something I can try when I get home.I was practising with milliputt on some IF helms before coming to work, but it was quite crude. BoP mark 3 helms look not too bad though

 

spec wip 1 by Danny Taylor, on Flickr

 

Spec wip 2 by Danny Taylor, on Flickr

 

20161125_202706 by Danny Taylor, on Flickr

 

Should I stick to just putting the spectacles around the eyes for variation, or run the band around the helm like this guy and the assault marines?

 

 dun3 by Danny Taylor, on Flickr

The helm is from the Iron Warriors helmet/ upgrade set. I just trimmed the nose piece down a little. The set also has a nice mark 2 helm with targetter which I like using for heavy support or seeker squads. Would probably go nicely with your Alpha legion.

 

99550102222_IronWarriorsLegionMkIIHeads by Danny Taylor, on Flickr

Edited March 23, 2018 by Dantay VI

[Sagentus]

Looking great. The addition to the helmets is a nice touch

[Dantay VI]

Thanks Sagentus.

 

I had been chatting with Stray Idea over on fb, and he highlighted that the grey highlights seemed a bit flat, to which he was right.

 

I went back over the grey with dawnstone, then did a final edge with administratum grey. I think it has sharpened it up a bit.

 

Its a bit shaky, but it will do...  Also got the dawnstone highlights on another 4 of 19 models before the eyes packed in

 

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Hope you like

[Honda]

Should I stick to just putting the spectacles around the eyes for variation, or run the band around the helm like this guy and the assault marines?

 

 

Yes, for variation. I imagine that the more elaborate helmets were for chieftains and favored retainers, so I would want to think the same reason would carry over.

 

Besides, we Wolves are individuals and to the extent that we can without getting too ridiculous, we should be striving to give them as individual looks as we can.

 

Thank you for the heads up on the heads, I'll definitely be giving them a serious look.

 

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I really like this rough looking grey you have going. It just looks beaten  and campaigned in. I'll be attempting to emulate this look on mine, but a tad darker.

 

You've got excellent stuff going on as always, looking forward to your progress.

 

Cheers,

[Dantay VI]

Lol, I wonder if it looks rough because my airbrush was spattering.

 

If you want to go darker then I would suggest more washes or go for eshin/ skaven blight grey or panzer dark grey from where I started with standard mech grey.

 

I also have some of these heads kicking about

 

99550101452_WhiteScarsMkIIHeadsUpgradeSet01 by Danny Taylor, on Flickr

 

Taking off the op-knots and straightening out the cheek sections, they might make nice spectacled helms, no?

 

A bit like

 

Thoughts?

[Honda]

I can see we fancy the same pictures. :)

 

I like the middle helm and think it can be pretty useful.. The others...not as sure of because of the cheek treatment. Not saying they can't, just that the IW helms immediately struck me as <wow viking> and the WS not so much.

 

However that's just me. Your modeling skills could make it work. :)

[Dantay VI]

Yeah, I kinda got the WS ones on a whim.... I could take the topknot and scoop off the top of the helm and straighten out the cheelk guards. Some already have the lower spectale in place, so I could put a nose piece in to make it more like a mark 3 and chainmail the lower face.

 

Its a lot of work but do-able... Just got to decide if it is worhth all the work.

 

As for the helms, I set up a small gallery of helm ideas a while back. The IW helm is very Sutton Hoo viking in look which is why I like it. 

 

2004_sutton_hoo_01 by Danny Taylor, on Flickr

 

Sutton_Hoo_helmet_reconstructed by Danny Taylor, on Flickr

 

sutton_hoo_side_898 by Danny Taylor, on Flickr

 

313113165_bc9beb04dd by Danny Taylor, on Flickr

 

Sutton_Hoo_helmet_2016 by Danny Taylor, on Flickr

 

7736ed83824605e2d7d928a503748464 by Danny Taylor, on Flickr

 

Quite like something like this for the grey slayers or deathsworn, just not sure what to use to pull it off..

 

f8079310e86a1727c412d61342c44762 by Danny Taylor, on Flickr

 

And this for my newborn son :D

 

s-l1600 by Danny Taylor, on Flickr

[Ryltar Thamior]

Very nice work on those helmets! Could totally see what you were going for as soon as i saw one painted up. Can't wait to see more!

[Dantay VI]

Thanks Ryltar, hopefully soon!! Just been a very slow month with the painting.

[Dantay VI]

This is where I am at for now, very slow going. Working through the metallics, still got more work to do on te steel, then come back in and do some tidy-up.

 

Tried steel on the face plates to match he gold, but it has a hard time standing out against he grey, so may switch it to bronze, 

 

What do you think?

 

Thoughts

 

hunter18 by Danny Taylor, on Flickr

hunter17 by Danny Taylor, on Flickr

 

hunter16 by Danny Taylor, on Flickr

 

hunter7 by Danny Taylor, on Flickr

hunter3 by Danny Taylor, on Flickr

hunter1 by Danny Taylor, on Flickr

 

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hunter22 by Danny Taylor, on Flickr

hunter21 by Danny Taylor, on Flickr

 

uhnter15 by Danny Taylor, on Flickr

hunter12 by Danny Taylor, on Flickr

 

hunter14 by Danny Taylor, on Flickr

hunter20 by Danny Taylor, on Flickr

 

unter11 by Danny Taylor, on Flickr

hunter10 by Danny Taylor, on Flickr

 

hunter13 by Danny Taylor, on Flickr

 

Thanks for looking!!

[Bjorn Firewalker]

Your models look good.

[Custom Hero]

Those helms are looking spot on brother!

[MagicMan]

Great looking Wolves, man.

 

The Dwarf (?) Weapons and Spectacle style helms work really well. These are how Wolves should look!

 

Viking viking viking, not wolf wolfy wolf.

[Sagentus]

I agree these are amazing. Loving the effect you have got on the armour

[Dantay VI]

Bjorn Firewalker, Custom Hero, thanks guys :)

 

MagicMan, yes I totally agree, thank goodness for the 30K range, although I am sad that the torso's are going out of production...

 

Sagentus, thanks, yeah the armor has worked out quite well. The grey really lends itself well as a base for most colour schemes

 

Baby Luke is having an op on Thursday for his hernia, which will be hard-going for him and my wife. She has to fast him before the op and I doubt a 3 month-old will understand what is happening... I do not get off the rig till Monday. Please note my company offered to let me go back for the op, but I discussed with my wife and she feels it will be more stressful having me at home rather than out of the way. She has her mother with her and my family around her.

 

This means ETL time would be at a premium, so likely just 1 or 2 small vows as most ime will be taken up with family and my own op.

 

Anyways, back on track tried something a little different:

 

Wanted to see how they would look with leather helmets. Was partly inspired by this and the Rohan from Lord of the Rings :D

 

f8079310e86a1727c412d61342c44762 by Danny Taylor, on Flickr

 

Have since done a few washes on them for variations sake

 

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Might redo the steel to make it pop more as vallejo black metal was maybe too dark a base.

 

Stick with full leather, go for half leather or am I barking up the wrong tree?

 

Thoughts?

 

Thanks for looking :)

[Dantay VI]

Tried some washes. The colours didn't come out much but it is far more pronounced in real life

 

bloodletter by Danny Taylor, on Flickr

Bloodletter glaze, gives it a reddish, almost orange hue...

 

carroburg by Danny Taylor, on Flickr

Caroburg crimson... In reality, it gives off a very dark blood reddish brown colour... 

 

reikland by Danny Taylor, on Flickr

Reikland flesh shade wash, very little change compared to the others

 

seraphim sepia by Danny Taylor, on Flickr

Seraphim sepia, a nice warm brown..

 

What do you think?

[Krakendoomcool]

The helmets on these guys are a great unique feature. I think you've made a good decision to highlight that with the brass colour scheme. Space Vikings!

[Dantay VI]

Thank you KDC!

 

So what colour for the beards?

 

20180517_203439 by Danny Taylor, on Flickr

 

20180517_203503 by Danny Taylor, on Flickr

[MagicMan]

White up top, blond below!

[Burias-Drak'shal]

Great work.

 

Maybe dark grey make them look like veterans.

[Krakendoomcool]

Ah yes, the old 'what hair colour conundrum' for the Space Wolves.

 

The eye patch and beard guy. My first impression is white, but maybe you want ot avoid looking too much like Ulrik. Black might work out with the eye patch too. Just need to try to get it to stand out next to the quite dark neck area of the armour. But could be quite characterful.

 

The other guy works well as a blonde or light brown, bit of a younger head.

[Dantay VI]

Cheers guys, I liked your ideas so I pretty much ran with them... Also msde the collar on the pack leader brown leather to help with the moustache...

 

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Okay so I need a pack marking idea.. I was also going to do Brands symbol on a knee plate, do I just do it in blac, like it wa engraved in, or do the knee pad white then the symbol in black... Just worried mor colour will make the models a bit too busy.

 

Thoughts??

[Krakendoomcool]

They are coming along nicely.

 

Brand’s symbol on the knee is a nice touch. As you say black might not show up. Could go red as it is already present on the models.

 

What Chapter badge are you going for? Could use those colours as a guide for what to pick for pack markings.

 

Black and yellow would be traditional for Wolf Guard. I’m guessing you want to minimise the yellow. Could do a mainly black pattern with some yellow. Or black pad with yellow runes to denote honourable achievements by individuals, or just do this for a few.

 

Alternatively go black onto the grey. Shouldn’t be so much of a problem with it standing out on the bigger surface of the shoulder pad. Or black and yellow runes or patterns on the grey shoulder pad to limit overall colourfulness.

 

Having written this I feel I’ve just listed all the options. So hope it helps.

[Dantay VI]

he big issue is the 30K crosssover... in Heresy tactical use red markings on their pads. Grey Slayers use the yellow and black of the modern wolf guard.

 

These will be tactical veterans, so neither really applies, and in 40K terms they will run as Wolf Guard.... Thinking the best solution like you say would be to do black pack markings with a little detail work in yellow

 

As for Chapter symbol, gonna go with the traditional red wolf head of the legion.

 

For Brand, black kneepad with white or yellow marking

[Krakendoomcool]

(started replying, went to work, the inconvenience of real life when you have important things to talk about)

 

I'm not upto speed on 30k markings. Wasn't sure what you were running these as. Makes sense to use them for both games.

 

You could mute the colours further if you wanted. Match the company badge to the pack markings. Grey background yellow, black or both runes.

 

To keep them less colourful you could match the knee colours to either shoulder pad once you've decided them.