Hopper21 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Im really struggling with Ynari my mate has beat me 4 times on the bounce. I'm using a primaris list but soul burst is just kicking my ass. It's so infuriating! Any advice on dealing with them ! Please! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338183-ynari-rage/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddyG Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 I'm not sure of the exact rules but is it possible to weaken all his units instead of outright killing them? That way when they soul burst, all his units are only on one or two guys left in each squad? Depends on his list of course. Captain Idaho 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338183-ynari-rage/#findComment-4858358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Difficult army to deal with. I recently faced them at a tournament. Honestly you need a few things to deal with them: -lots of redundancy -efficient units -line of sight blocking terrain. If he's beaten you easily in 4 games, he should significantly tone down his list until your collection gains the required units to put up a fight. Captain Idaho, Hopper21 and CrimsonCorvidae 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338183-ynari-rage/#findComment-4858406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 That's my initial thought on the matter also. Weaken as many units as possible. Also consider some units might be out range if you kill their mates from afar. Alternatively, if you have to, kill the nastiest units first so other units can't annihilate you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338183-ynari-rage/#findComment-4858408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Ynarri, since inception, is the army you never want to destroy but widdle down instead. In most cases it is now leveraging DE instead of Eldar which makes it super fast. Really hard to avoid. I don't envy you. I still think it's a wonky game mechanic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338183-ynari-rage/#findComment-4858421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 I had a game against them a little while ago. To be fair, Soulburst from killing did not hurt as much as some other combos, like Fire Dragons disembarking, Soulbursting using that one Psychic Power and then shooting, or MSU Dark Reapers in a Raider. Their main weakness seems to be their low model count. I played pure Primaris DA against them and we had approximate equal amounts of units, him having less staying power. The tactic was to reduce each unit to 1-ish members and then killing them. This is still risky, because the biggest damage from Soulbursting was in fact Smite from his Psykers. There was also that Yncarn-monsterthingywhatsitsface that can appear on a kill. I left things like Warp Spiders with one dude up, bit killed high profile killers like Fire Dragons. This basically comes down to knowing what can hurt you the most and what you can weaken but leave alive. Also, try deploying defensively and pack some long-ranged stuff to force him out of position and minimize the damage from turn 1-2. Ynnari are soft and their combos aren't cheap. Capitalize on that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338183-ynari-rage/#findComment-4858590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopper21 Posted August 16, 2017 Author Share Posted August 16, 2017 (edited) It was so painful to watch i even proxied a couple of assassins before hand to help. My list VANGUARD HQ Techmarine (in repulsor) Elites Aggressors (flamer gauntlets) 10 reivers with carbines grapel hooks Redempter Dred (plasma) Vindicae Culexus Apothercary Troops X3 intercessors squads with ABR Heavy support X5 Plasma assault incinerators Dedicated transport Repulsar Guilliman His list 2 weavers full of wraithguard 5 dark reapers Some harlequin cheese Death jester That ynari psyker chick with the cat and her body guard. Wraithlord Other bits. He had turn 1 advanced his weavers literally in my face. Destroyed my repulsor with the dark reapers taking out 3 of the aggressors inside. And he cast doom on it.. My turn 1 and already 400pts light I decided to pop the weaver right in my face....then a whole world of hurt began...he used it's destruction for the wraithguard inside to soul burst down my lines. The hero of the game was my culexis assassin held up all the pskykers for a while stopping smite. The most useful thing the dred did was blow up and take a load of his models out. Fluffed shooting it for 2 turns... Edited August 16, 2017 by Hopper21 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338183-ynari-rage/#findComment-4858685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 You'll need a lot more high strength weapons to deal with that opponent. Between his vehicles and Wraithknight you can't deal enough damage by the time he gets up close. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338183-ynari-rage/#findComment-4858748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 2 weavers full of wraithguard Dude's being gamist and exploiting loopholes. Wraithguard take up 2 slots in a transport and as such shouldn't be able to fit into a weaver. As the weaver comes from the harlequin list, it doesn't have the rule for transporting wraithguard that the serpent has. Expect this to go away in an FAQ. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338183-ynari-rage/#findComment-4858784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopper21 Posted August 16, 2017 Author Share Posted August 16, 2017 Thanks all for feedback. He's a good guy new back. I've shown him this thread and he's apologised lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338183-ynari-rage/#findComment-4858861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 The Techmarine can not enter the Repulsor, unfortunately, as he is not Primaris. I wouldn't bother with Aggressors, especially the Flamer kind, against Eldar. They will not last long against Reapers or if he decides to run a Hemlock Cheesefighter. I would also advice against Assault Incinerators. S7 overcharged will not be as effective. I find S7 regular and S8 overcharged to be the sweetspot as you wound most vehicles on a 3+ when overcharged and with Guilliman you also have a fair chance to drop T8. All while you can still Rapid Fire to keep infantry in check. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338183-ynari-rage/#findComment-4859054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopper21 Posted August 16, 2017 Author Share Posted August 16, 2017 Why can't a techmarine go In a repulsor it dosnt primaris Only? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338183-ynari-rage/#findComment-4859210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 It only carries Primaris models. My Techmarine just follows the vehicle. He's still a character so hard to isolate against shooting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338183-ynari-rage/#findComment-4859282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Repulsor is only for models with the Primaris keyword. Hopper21 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338183-ynari-rage/#findComment-4859283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopper21 Posted August 16, 2017 Author Share Posted August 16, 2017 Rgr cheers! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338183-ynari-rage/#findComment-4859317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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