Alternate methods of painting yellow?

[Kaldoth]

So, Im currently working on some Angry Marines for a friend of mine. Unfortunately, Im having some trouble getting the yellow base coat to come out smooth. I've tried two methods so far, and neither have worked out to good effect.

 

The first was with a grey primer and then multiple thin coats of Averland Sunset over it. Unfortunately, the yellow comes out kind of chalky and fuzzy. Although my painting area is well air conditioned and ventilated, I'm guessing the humidity here on the east coast of the U.S. might be affecting the paint, primer, or both. It is not bad at an arm's length, but up close it definitely isn't smooth. Me being a bit of a perfectionist, I dont think that method is going to work.

 

The second method I have tried is a white primer and P3 yellow ink. It is much less fuzzy, but yellow ink over white primer has proven almost impossible to get even due to the natural form of the miniature itself. The primer is thinner than the grey primer, but its obviously not going to lay evenly on the inside of the legs, under the arms, around the backpack, etc. The slightest difference in thickness of the white primer results in glaring differences in how the ink applies, so I get very stark differences in areas of the basecoat.

 

So, am I doing something wrong here that any of you might know how to correct? Do you have any tips that might help me out? Or maybe a different method of painting an even, non-fuzzy base of yellow?

 

Cheers,

 

-Kal

[Kinstryfe]

You could try thickening the ink with some acrylic medium so that it flows less.

 

Not sure exactly what yellow you're going for, but a silver base followed by multiple layers of yellow and possibly sepia inks/shades/glazes would likely give a good result for a metallic sheen yellow. I've tried with purple, blue, and red to success so I'm sure yellow could work too.

Do you have an example of the yellow finish you're going for?

[fisheyedbunny]

You could try the GW or Army Painter yellow sprays then wash with the P3 Yellow Ink? Not sure if this would give you the colour of yellow you are after but its worth a try on a test mini to see

[Bung]

Maybe work from a brown base color not from grey.

[sockwithaticket]

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Don't start with yellow. establish a base of an orang-ey or yellow-y brown; ochre type colours. Then add progressively more yellow until you've basically got a yellow basecoat and then you can start doing what you want.

[Kinstryfe]

I grabbed a random spare model and did part of his armour. It's leadbelcher quick highlighted with stormhost silver, then 5 layers. I went Casandra Yellow, then Lamenters Yellow, then repeated those 2, then a very thin dark sepia ink wash. May not be what you were going for, but in person the model has a decent depth of natural highlights and is quite smooth. It turned out much more yellow than I expected and now I want to paint some Fists with it.

https://imgur.com/gallery/tezxZ

Edit: hopefully that link works. For some reason I can't imbed the photo.

Edited August 20, 2017 by Kinstryfe

[old git]

There's a Duncan's 'how to' guide on WHTV, quite good really.

[K0rtmer]

You've seen this? http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318645-dos-imperial-fists-tutorial-part-2/

 

Unsure how many models you're wanting to paint. I could see how this particular approach was unfeasible for more than a squad perhaps. But, considering the relative conceptual simplicity, the result looks quite alright to me? 

 

Personally I wouldn't tackle IF, Angry Marines, or anything like it without yellow spray paint or an airbrush to get the basecoat down. 

[Cornelias]

I use Vajello model color: Goldbrown as a base coat and it works even over an undercoat of black, you can then pretty much put any yellow on top and it'll take with a solid colour.

[Razblood]

Zandri dust basecoat, couple of thin coats of yriel yellow, recess shade with thinned seraphim sepia (50/50) touch up with yriel yellow, extreme highlight with screaming skull or down yellow, glaze lamenters yellow all over and you're done :tu: Edited August 23, 2017 by Razblood

[Phantomzero17]

I hated painting yellow but then I saw this method on reddit.

 

Grey Primer.  Zandri dust.  Then two washes of Casandora Yellow.  Nuln Oil / Agrax to taste.  I added some rough highlighting with Flash Gitz yellow to this "recipe".  Actually I never finished my Marines Malevolent killteam project before 8th dropped.  So I have models that show the progression of this.

[sarabando]

back in the day some Imp fist players used to start with a flesh tone as a base coat then a second base coat of yellow.

[Brother Desultor]

There's a guy on Facebook called Vivid Brush who is currently painting an Imperial Fists Dreadnought. He does currently have painting guides for black armour, as well as green which I've been using for my Salamanders so he may well have plans to publish one for yellow. He responds very quickly to messages and has been very willing to answer questions regarding his methods.

 

It might be worth dropping him a message to see if he'd be willing to share his process. I'm at work at the moment so I can't access Facebook to provide a link to him, but he's easy to find under Vivid Brush.

[Slips]

I'm a masochist and Prime Black but still, the yellow I go for these days is more of an Orange-Yellow that goes:

 

-Averland Sunset

-Yriel Yellow

-Cassandora Yellow (heavy)

-(optional) Lamenters Yellow Glaze (2-3 coats)

-Necron Compound OR Ironbreaker drybrushing to kinda pick out edges and whatever; I like the dirtier look/effect this gives my models vs Edge Highlighting with Dorn Yellow or other colours.

 

Here's some examples courtesy of my crappy phone camera and warm lighting @_@

 

Warning: Images may or may not be HEUG

http://i.imgur.com/tFTHipU.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/2r6IZDf.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/f3J8VMS.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Xa67YA7.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/poVndyA.jpg

 

Method mostly came about because I'm Lazy and I like the Darker Yellow more than a Bright, Vibrant Golden Yellow.

[CrimsonReign]

id either prime with army painter fur-brown or go straight in with their demonic yellow (sprays)

[TheVIIth]

Try the following:

 

1) use a white primer

2) undercout the modell with screaming skull

3) shade the reccesses with agrax earthshade

4) wash the whole modell with cassandora yellow

5) layer the modell with a 50/50 mix of averland sunset and yiriel yellow (water the mix down quite alot due to the cassandora wash it is still a solid coat and you won t need more than 1 layer)

6) last step my be some highlights with flash gitz yellow

 

It is for me the perfect method. Relativly fast to paint with a really solid result .

 

I will try to post a picture so you can see the result

 

greez

[TheVIIth]

na never mind cant post a pic with my smartphone Edited August 29, 2017 by TheVIIth

[SlickJSax]

I think this is my favorite tutorial for painting yellow and reducing headaches.

 

http://www.mengelminiatures.com/2017/07/tutorial-classic-imperial-fists.html

[Kallas]

Maybe work from a brown base color not from grey.

 

This. I've been painting an ochre yellow for several years now on Retribution of Scyrah Warmachine models and more recently on Howling Griffons. Here's my gallery (which currently only has the one finished Marine, but still!)

 

My process is:

1. Black spray undercoat
2. GW Skrag Brown basecoat (can be patchy if you're in a hurry, it's mostly important to get the recesses reasonably covered)
3. GW Agrax Earthshade wash (I usually wash quite heavily, though not flooding it)
4. For the yellow I use Vallejo Ochre Brown (GW Foundation Tau Sept Oche - new GW Tau Light Ochre and the GW chart recommendation was straight up wrong!)
5. For the yellow highlights I use Vallejo Yellow Ochre

It makes for a good 'deep' yellow colour. It will still require some extra coats because yellow is just a bastard of a colour to get a neat cost, but with the brown/washed basecoat I've found it to be miles easier than trying to build up a pure yellow foundation. I also find that a white undercoat is also not worth the hassle, unless you're going the white undercoat -> heavy brown/yellow washes -> yellow layer.

 

My two cents.