Skaorn Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 I've seen it suggested when talking about armies people would like to see added to 40k but would they fit in as an actual unique army? It seems to me like they would borrow heavily from IG if you wanted to do a full army. At best I think you might be able to do a minor faction, like Harlequins, with some unique units. I'm curious what fans of the RT army would want to see and how they would make them an army without borrowing heavily from others. walter h 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsovitt Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 I'd imagine a rogue trader list would be similar to an inquisition list, several hq's, elites with the ability to include certain units from Imperium lists which would change keyword from chapter/regiment to rogue trader. Shinespider 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqui Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 I'd imagine a rogue trader list would be similar to an inquisition list, several hq's, elites with the ability to include certain units from Imperium lists which would change keyword from chapter/regiment to rogue trader. That's how I'd see a Rogue Trader army too. In fact, I'd have no problem another player using an Inquisition list and kitbashing or converting models to suit the flavour. Not too sure how likely a Rogue Trader with psychic powers would be though. Not very, I would imagine... In fact, Damn it, its given me yet another idea! :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezr91aeL Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 The best thing could be the use of xeno weaponary for some HQ and Elite units. Even xeno mercenaries, like Kroots, DE Kabalites, Eldar Corsairs or Ork Freebooters. And a lot of aircraft and hover vehicles. N1SB 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timur Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 (edited) To be frank, you could add any mechanicum or astartes force as well. I would suggest a squad or two to keep it real, but I like the idea to drive the narrative for a mixed force. Consider the idea stolen @ some point in the future Edited August 20, 2017 by Timur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinespider Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 (edited) Inquisition is the obvious touchstone - a central, heavily customizable "hero" model plus and variety of equally customization henchmen, allied to IG or Astartes or whatever else. In fact, the main issue with adding Rogue Traders is that they're frankly so similar to inquisitors that they'd seem totally redundant. Edited August 19, 2017 by Shinespider Lord Marshal and KBA 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqui Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 True, but the challenge then would be make models to address that deficit :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinstryfe Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Imho, imperial soup is so expansive that there's virtually no need for new imperial choices at this time. It seems like half the options available in the game are imperial, and I'd agree that you could very easily theme a Rogue Trader's army around existing choices with some flavorful modeling. If anything, I think we need more chaos and xenos options to bring them up to par with Imperium. Azekai, Aqui, Shinespider and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skaorn Posted August 20, 2017 Author Share Posted August 20, 2017 Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating a new Imperium army. The Xenos get far too little love already. It just seemed like you could already accomplish a close enough approximation by literally filing off the inquisitor icons off their army unless I was really missing fluff talking about the cool forces of rogue traders. I guess I just wanted to know if they did have their own unique forces that could make a viable full army and it would seem like that is a no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinstryfe Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 I've never read of them having "unique" forces, though they have been said to have a wide variety. So while I came imagine any particular /new/ unit, it could be a great basis for an imperial soup army. An Inquisitor with xenos or archaeotech as the trader. A company Commander as your head of ship's forces, AM veterans with shotguns for ship security, and virtually any imperial unit including Marines would be completely fluffy as forces attached to the trade fleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claws and Effect Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 The Marines Errant have a documented history of working with Rogue Traders. Good excuse to include some xenos too, as Rogue Traders in general are more tolerant of them. Purging the xenos doesn't work out so well when there are several systems full of them between you and your nearest backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinstryfe Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Ooh claws, that's an excellent idea. Letting them include X units of Eldar/Orks/whatever could be an awesome idea. Has potential to change how the whole army plays. There's been fluff about high ranking imperials having grav transports, so even something like the Inquisitor's rule to ride in any transport would make sense. Would also be a good way to introduce one-off mercenary xenos races that could work alongside a variety of armies. The more ideas get tossed out, the more in favor of a list (which would need very little model support) I am :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsovitt Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 I think the issue with any one off xenos forces or specific figures for rogue traders is that they take away from the production time for the plethora of model ranges which need to be updated (craftworld aspect warriors, chaos marines, beserkers and of course sisters of battle to name a few) That doesn't mean I don't want to see new xenos mercenary range or a rogue trader/inquisitor multipart kit but I want them to update kits/ranges from the 90s/00s first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevak Dal Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 I'd imagine a rogue trader list would be similar to an inquisition list, several hq's, elites with the ability to include certain units from Imperium lists which would change keyword from chapter/regiment to rogue trader.That's how I'd see a Rogue Trader army too. In fact, I'd have no problem another player using an Inquisition list and kitbashing or converting models to suit the flavour. Not too sure how likely a Rogue Trader with psychic powers would be though. Not very, I would imagine... In fact, Damn it, its given me yet another idea! :lol: Well you could just not use them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filkarion Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 I have a huge project for a "civilian" imperium army, something - Rogue trader like... I only need money, time, some whfb models. Rules are optional as it will be a "count as" army... I always remember the beautiful Navigators army that was also featured on a Vision number when this topic is brought up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Killmer Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Well if you would like to have this a very tragic story - insert a genestealer cult aspect ;) like it seemed a story of bright future and treasure - but then its 40k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyberos the Red Wake Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Inquisitors, Assassins, and the multiple HQ detachment could also work to represent "small, powerful RT crew" player parties in lieu of a single RT and his personal army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexington Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 I'd definitely look at Inquisitors/Imperial Agents to represent Rogue Traders, too. Though, this brings up an interesting question - are Rogue Traders really something for 40K? I'd never begrudge anyone their custom narrative or army, of course, but it seems to me that when it comes to wars with the conventional 40K factions, a Trader's first response would be to contact the Guard and get the hell out of Dodge. Full-scale ground war isn't what their personal forces are trained or equipped for, from how I understand it. Skaorn 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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