Claws and Effect Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 This is built using models I can actually put on the table right now. ++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [30 PL, 629pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot + **Chapter Selection**: Raven Guard + HQ + Kayvaan Shrike [8 PL, 150pts] + Elites + Contemptor Dreadnought [8 PL, 165pts]: Combi-bolter, Dreadnought combat weapon, Kheres pattern assault cannon Sternguard Veteran Squad [7 PL, 157pts] . Space Marine Veteran: Combi-melta . Space Marine Veteran: Combi-flamer . Space Marine Veteran: Combi-flamer . Space Marine Veteran w/Heavy Weapon: Heavy flamer . Veteran Sergeant: Combi-melta Vanguard Veteran Squad [7 PL, 157pts] . Space Marine Veteran: 2x Lightning Claw . Space Marine Veteran: 2x Lightning Claw . Space Marine Veteran: Power fist, Storm shield . Space Marine Veteran: Power axe, Storm shield . Veteran Sergeant: Relic blade, Storm shield ++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [70 PL, 1371pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot + **Chapter Selection**: Raven Guard + HQ + Chaplain [5 PL, 79pts]: Plasma pistol Techmarine [4 PL, 69pts]: Plasma pistol, Power axe, Servo-arm + Troops + Scout Squad [6 PL, 111pts]: 5x Camo cloak . Scout Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Sniper rifle . Scout w/Heavy Weapon: Missile launcher . 3x Scout w/Sniper Rifle: 3x Sniper rifle Tactical Squad [5 PL, 92pts] . 3x Space Marine . Space Marine Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Storm bolter . Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Missile launcher Tactical Squad [5 PL, 105pts] . 3x Space Marine . Space Marine Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Combi-plasma . Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Lascannon Tactical Squad [5 PL, 99pts] . 3x Space Marine . Space Marine Sergeant: Combi-plasma, Power sword . Space Marine w/Special Weapon: Grav-gun + Fast Attack + Assault Squad [6 PL, 113pts]: Jump Pack . 2x Space Marine . Space Marine Sergeant: Plasma pistol, Power fist . Space Marine w/Special Weapon . . Plasma Pistol & Chainsword: Plasma pistol . Space Marine w/Special Weapon . . Plasma Pistol & Chainsword: Plasma pistol Assault Squad [6 PL, 113pts]: Jump Pack . 2x Space Marine . Space Marine Sergeant: Plasma pistol, Power fist . Space Marine w/Special Weapon . . Plasma Pistol & Chainsword: Plasma pistol . Space Marine w/Special Weapon . . Plasma Pistol & Chainsword: Plasma pistol + Heavy Support + Devastator Squad [8 PL, 164pts] . Space Marine Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Combi-plasma . Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Plasma cannon . Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Plasma cannon . Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Plasma cannon . Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Plasma cannon + Flyer + Stormraven Gunship [15 PL, 311pts]: Twin assault cannon, Twin multi-melta, Two Hurricane Bolters, Two Stormstrike Missile Launchers + Dedicated Transport + Razorback [5 PL, 115pts]: Twin lascannon ++ Total: [100 PL, 2000pts] ++ Created with BattleScribe Basic plan: The 2 Tactical squads with missile launcher and lascannon will be back field objective campers. I gave them a long range weapon each so they can still contribute to the battle when nothing is near them. The 3rd Tactical Squad will ride in the Razorback with the Techmarine. The Assault Squads will be grabbing other objectives. Devastator squad will be placed somewhere with a good field of fire. The Contemptor and Sternguard will ride in the Stormraven. Shrike will probably either deepstrike or SftS with the Vanguard. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338393-first-8th-edition-list/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damo1701 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 (edited) I'd suggest finding the points (and models) for 10 Sternguard. 5 with flame weapons, 5 with melta weapons. I've found that mixing the weapons in 5-man squads like that means they do lots of diddly. There just isn't enough of either to output the damage you are after. Also, points-wise, vanguard kick out far more damage than assault marines do. The only reason I tens to take them in most of my lists currently is lack of vanguard (almost fixed) and counter-charge/deep strike denial near my Fire base. Assault squads don't get ObSec AFAIK, so be careful if they are trying to oust other units from objectives. Last thing... Sniper Scouts... trying for those mortal wounds in addition to normal damage makes people hide their characters and either target the scouts over other things, or, deny themselves full use of their auras. Ignore this bit... Just saw the scouts there... Edited August 20, 2017 by Damo1701 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338393-first-8th-edition-list/#findComment-4863054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claws and Effect Posted August 20, 2017 Author Share Posted August 20, 2017 Money is limited, so I'm hosed for now. However, my local GW store still has a copy of Shadow Force Solaq that I'm hoping to get before someone else snags it. Damo1701 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338393-first-8th-edition-list/#findComment-4863092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damo1701 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Hmm... I know that feeling. Tbf, it might work, a lot depends on your local meta I guess. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338393-first-8th-edition-list/#findComment-4863110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claws and Effect Posted August 21, 2017 Author Share Posted August 21, 2017 I'm going to try this list out before I make sweeping changes to it. Any other minor tweaks I could incorporate? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338393-first-8th-edition-list/#findComment-4864209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONDIG Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Maybe swap Sternguard for Company vets? I hate to see all them S.I.Bolters wasted in favor of combis when you might be able to get the same load out for maybe a few points cheaper? Also if I'm not mistaken you can now equip Plasma guns instead of flamers/P.pistols.Of course you can't use a Plasma gun in the fight phase! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338393-first-8th-edition-list/#findComment-4864565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claws and Effect Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 Can Company Vets take a heavy flamer? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338393-first-8th-edition-list/#findComment-4865072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Captain Vyper Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Company Vets can only take specials, so no Heavy Flamer I'm afraid. As for the (I assume) plasmagun in an ASM unit, that errata pertains to Blood Angels only. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338393-first-8th-edition-list/#findComment-4865194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claws and Effect Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 That one particular unit is about the only thing I'm tailoring for my most common (eventual) opponent, my wife's Nids. She has a butt ton of gaunts and 2 carnifexes. I wanted a unit that could handle both. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338393-first-8th-edition-list/#findComment-4865238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gulltramarine Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 I would use missile launchers over Plasma Cannons and generally have another dev squad. Once you have that gunline, you can pretty much pick whatever units you like. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338393-first-8th-edition-list/#findComment-4865965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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