beat_ronin Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Hi everyone, apologies in advance if this is a silly question. I can't get my head around army/detachment organisation in 8th with respect to Ad Mech, and I hope you can all help clear it up for me. I'm mostly a Guard player, but I have a small number of Skitarii models I'd like to field with my guardsmen. Love the models, especially the Sicarians. Anyway in Index Imperium 2 it says that Admech units can only get the Canticles bonus if every model in the detachment has the right keyword. A detachment is not the same as an army, right? So if I field an Astra Militarum Battalion alongside an Adeptus Mechanicus Patrol, I have a battleforged [iMPERIUM] army, because both detachments are made up of units that share that keyword. But if the AdMech Patrol only has AdMech units in it, it's an [ADEPTUS MECHANICUS] Patrol and thus all the units in it with the Canticles ability can use the ability? Even though they're part of a larger [iMPERIUM] army? But if I just shoved my AdMech guys into a Brigade with my Astra Militarum units it would be an [iMPERIUM] Brigade and the AdMech guys would lose their Canticles. Is that right? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338414-canticles-and-mixed-armies-help/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeStinyFiSh Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Hi everyone, apologies in advance if this is a silly question. I can't get my head around army/detachment organisation in 8th with respect to Ad Mech, and I hope you can all help clear it up for me. I'm mostly a Guard player, but I have a small number of Skitarii models I'd like to field with my guardsmen. Love the models, especially the Sicarians. Anyway in Index Imperium 2 it says that Admech units can only get the Canticles bonus if every model in the detachment has the right keyword. A detachment is not the same as an army, right? So if I field an Astra Militarum Battalion alongside an Adeptus Mechanicus Patrol, I have a battleforged [iMPERIUM] army, because both detachments are made up of units that share that keyword. But if the AdMech Patrol only has AdMech units in it, it's an [ADEPTUS MECHANICUS] Patrol and thus all the units in it with the Canticles ability can use the ability? Even though they're part of a larger [iMPERIUM] army? But if I just shoved my AdMech guys into a Brigade with my Astra Militarum units it would be an [iMPERIUM] Brigade and the AdMech guys would lose their Canticles. Is that right? Correct ! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338414-canticles-and-mixed-armies-help/#findComment-4863437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swan-of-War Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Yep! I run an Ad Mech Vanguard and Spearhead force with a lonely Taurox in it's own Auxiliary detachment because it's cool. Why not shove it either Ad Mech detachment and save myself the -1 Command Point penalty? Because then my forces would lose their canticles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338414-canticles-and-mixed-armies-help/#findComment-4863752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beat_ronin Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 Great, thanks. Now to plan some proper lists... Er... praise the Omnissiah! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338414-canticles-and-mixed-armies-help/#findComment-4864482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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