Stormraven Loadout

[Corvus Fortis]

Before assembling my first bird I'd like to ask how's best way to equip it to help my GK. I see, hurricane bolters are autochoice - no reason not to take them. But what about other guns?

 

I'm thinking about assault cannon + typhoon. 12 S6 AP1 shots seem to me very powerful and can bring a couple of wounds even to vehicles. I like typhoon because of how versatile it is. It is like twin missile launcher and effecitve both against infantry and vehicles depending on mode. It is cheaper than twin MM too.

 

But, of what I can see, most players take AC+MM combination, I don't clearly understand why. Yes, MM negates most vehicles savea and potentially does more damage, but it is more expensive, has shorter range and totally useless against horde of orks\gaunts. Is there a point I cannot see and -2 save (that hits invuln pretty often) and 2 dice for damage is that critical?

 

I also consider lascannons, since I have no long range AV right now, but they are even more expensive and Raven really needs to be close to deliver troops.

 

Heavy bolter is interesting too, because it's cheap and affected by psybolt stratagem. 

 

Want to know your opinion, guys. Thanks!

[The Unseen]

Raven is pretty easy to magnetize, I highly recommend doing so, loadouts change with editions/time/new lists.

[Chronos Darkhelmet]

I confirm what Unseen is saying, I still regret to have my pidgeon bought 2nd-hand in antitank version without the alternative loadouts :P

 

Just to summarize:

 

- in 5th and 6th edition the must-have was full dakka in order to take full advantage of psy ammunition, with the TLMM on the front at most;

 

- in 7th edition the "must-have" (if anybody may say so, lacking reserve control) was the antitank version with TLMM and TLLC;

 

- now the must-have has come back to the dakka version, due to the change to twin-linked weapons.

 

Therefore, totally go for magnets in order to switch loadouts in case, and keep in mind the last setting for the current edition ;)

[Zamtro]

GK tend to lack range anti tank - So it's pretty common to see the Twin Laz/Twin Melta loadout. Thats what Im using and found it to be very effective putting tanks to bed early.

[Godeskian]

I wish I'd known about magnetisation when I built my Raven in fifth edition

[the jeske]

It is generally not always about the perfect load out of one units in case of armies that can counter stuff without tailoring. GK with their stormbolters can deal ok with horde[not the extrem version, and it is only Ok, not super great, I agree with that]. On the other hand the MM which is a meh weapon in general, is important to GK [well to GK that run stormravens], so it is not a bad idea to run it along side an AC.

[soots]

It comes down to what your list is lacking. I run mine with hurricane bolters, assault cannon and multimelta.

 

Don't forget it has 2 stormstrike missiles to help in anti tank

[Strykaar]

Wow you guys are still really playing "what you see is what you get" ? Or do you all play on tournaments ?

 

My stormraven weapons are magnetized, but I dont know which weapon is what. I just assemble the best looking ones and define the equip with my list. (In my group we never ever play WYSIWYG)...

 

But yeah if you Play with Hardliners who demand WYSIWYG you should use magnets.

[aekold]

currently I run my stormraven with hurricane bolters, heavy bolter and lascannon. This in order to maximize the effect of the psybolt ammo stratagem. This also gives me some much needed lascannon shots.

Another favourite is the more close range load-out with twin assault cannon and multi melta.

One thing to consider is that the HB/LC version is cheaper then the AC/MM version

[Helycon]

It's a lot easier for opponents (and yourself) to remember which models and squads have what when you need to use them in either shooting or combat. Once you start pulling models from squads, it becomes difficult to know what is actually left, especially in bigger battles. So yes, WYSIWYG has merit even in a friendly environment :) .

[Adeptus]

WYSIWYG for life! I can't describe how much it would annoy me if my opponents list never matched his models!

 

Not to mention, we often play with PL instead of points here and a fairly rigorous application of WYSIWYG is a necessary balancing measure when using PL.

[Strykaar]

Yeah I get the point for PL, thats true. But we never play with PL :D

 

We play so many other games, that dont even have the option to play them WYSIWYG, that we simply are used to play by lists. I am so used to play by lists, that I dont even know which weapon has which model. I know how a lascannon Looks and a plasma weapon, but thats it :D

[Gentlemanloser]

Wound allocation in 8th make What you see much less important.

 

The Justicar / Paragon will always be the last removed. As will special weapon guys. Sure there are snipers, but that's a lot less than the targeting of 7th.

 

I've got no idea what a brightlance or venom cannon actually look like, so go by what my opponents tell me.

 

Got to have some trust!

 

Also there's no what you see for psychic powers...

[Valerian]

++ This isn't a thread about WYSIWYG. Please get back on topic to optimal loadout for the Stormraven. ++

[Gentlemanloser]

At the cost of only 4 points each, there doesn't seem to be a rain bit to take hurricane bolters.

 

They're a steal!

[Zamtro]

On that note - I picked up my raven 2nd hand and without hurricanes, before i start diligently searching has anyone got a simple to follow way to make some up?

[Danarc]

On that note - I picked up my raven 2nd hand and without hurricanes, before i start diligently searching has anyone got a simple to follow way to make some up?

Bits shops? 

Or maybe if you have a LR crusader you could magnetise the hurricane bolter.

[Adeptus]

Yeah, I mean you could cobble something together out of spare boltguns and sprues and whatnot, but that sounds like a lot of work. I'd just be looking for some bits, either LR Crusader bits or the Stormraven hurricane bolter bits on eBay.

[Zamtro]

Yeah thats the plan... I just figured if someone has already done it they might have an easy idea!