Helias_Tancred Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 (edited) ... our codex is supposed to release? Is November still the rumored month? Isn't that when Guy Haley's Baal novel comes out as well? Edited August 23, 2017 by Helias Tancred Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338477-have-there-been-rumors-of-when/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 (edited) *thereAnd yes November is still the rumoured month. How believable that rumour is we'll see whether T'au/AM will get their Codex after Death Guard or not. Edited August 22, 2017 by sfPanzer Dosjetka, Paikis and Helias_Tancred 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338477-have-there-been-rumors-of-when/#findComment-4864527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppaby Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 AM confirmed on Warhammer Community to follow DG. Posted today Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338477-have-there-been-rumors-of-when/#findComment-4864871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 (edited) Yea, I'd still put money on between Nov 14th and end of the first week in Dec. That's around when out last codex came out also. Not long to wait. Best get painting those units that were under-used in 7th. Regarding the next book after Death Guard - Its the Adeptus Mechanicus 'AM', not the Astra Militarum 'AM'. Edited August 22, 2017 by Xenith Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338477-have-there-been-rumors-of-when/#findComment-4864895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 AM confirmed on Warhammer Community to follow DG. Posted today Not AM. AdMech. Two different factions. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338477-have-there-been-rumors-of-when/#findComment-4864899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppaby Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Same initials. Just confirming the release using teh initals you used above. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338477-have-there-been-rumors-of-when/#findComment-4864951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palwatch Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 GW confirmed Craftwolrd Eldar, Astra Militarim and Tyranids before xmas. With SM, Ad Mech, Chaos, Grey Knights and Deatg Guard thats 8 in total. 2 to go if their 10 is to be believed. Ots becoming less likely that BA will our codex this year Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338477-have-there-been-rumors-of-when/#findComment-4873116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 It also makes the rumour to be less likely to be true since the releases we now know about don't fit any of the rumoured lists. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338477-have-there-been-rumors-of-when/#findComment-4873119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Ghost IX Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 (edited) Still think it would be a nice release window for us along with the Tyranids codex and the Devastation of Baal novel. I've seen that speculated for months here and there so yeah... November is Necromunda tho... Hmmm. Seems a smart play (for GW) to update us in the chapter approved too. Hmmm. I am down to wait if that is what it takes to get it right. I say that edition after edition... We shall see. =) Edited August 31, 2017 by Crimson Ghost IX SM1981 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338477-have-there-been-rumors-of-when/#findComment-4873147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indefragable Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 I have a feeling we're going to be among the last. I have a hunch that Chapter Approved will see incremental changes based on feedback for the BA, DA, SW, and DW. But things won't be settled until after everything else. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338477-have-there-been-rumors-of-when/#findComment-4873364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spagunk Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 I am guessing just price revisions rather than any meat. Also, I pretty much expected us to be next year so at least I'm not disappointed. SM1981 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338477-have-there-been-rumors-of-when/#findComment-4873417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Getting the Codex next year instead of being one of the last two isn't too terrible really tho. It makes it more likely to have the Chapter approved changes included already and the later the Codex comes the more likely it's to be balanced based on the feedback GW is getting from all the people who got their codex before us already. So while it would've been nice to be among the first 5 or so factions to get their Codex, I'd rather get the Codex right after the Chapter approved instead of right before. Grazcruzk 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338477-have-there-been-rumors-of-when/#findComment-4873433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palwatch Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 The later we get it the better it is for us. As said above, they will incorporate the most up to date rules and be at the end of any power creep, making us top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338477-have-there-been-rumors-of-when/#findComment-4874138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebs_evo7 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 We'll get it two weeks before 9th edition SM1981, Karhedron and Silverson 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338477-have-there-been-rumors-of-when/#findComment-4874200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 But what a glorious 2 weeks they will be! :p sebs_evo7 and Aothaine 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338477-have-there-been-rumors-of-when/#findComment-4874404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 honestly, I don't think we'll see a new edition for a fairly long time now They'll embrace the idea of iterative releases with updates to points etc for balance, same as they've done with AoS. as far as our codex goes, there is a sweet spot. You don't want to be first, because often the first codex made ends up being pretty poor long term due to codex creep. You don't want to be last, because eventually they decide to reign it in and you get hit with a bigger nerf than seems fair (BA have had both of the above happen in the past). I honestly don't want a broken or cheesy codex though, I'd much rather have something well balanced that is exciting to play.Still an outside chance we end up being December, but I suspect it'll be next year. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338477-have-there-been-rumors-of-when/#findComment-4874430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 With the next three after Death Guard and Ad Mech confirmed to be Eldar, Nids and Imperial Guard I'm starting to think we may get some new models after all. Maybe they're going to give all of the non-codex chapters the Death Guard and Thousand Sons treatment? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338477-have-there-been-rumors-of-when/#findComment-4874479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aothaine Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 With the next three after Death Guard and Ad Mech confirmed to be Eldar, Nids and Imperial Guard I'm starting to think we may get some new models after all. Maybe they're going to give all of the non-codex chapters the Death Guard and Thousand Sons treatment? Yeah.... I don't know about that. They didn't even give Ultramarines an update. If any chapter was to get an update it would be them first. I think GW is phasing out the old lines and planning to continue the Primaris push for the new generation of gamers. The old models will still be usable but you are slowly going to find that using Primaris is what you want to do. The Blood Angels are nearly extinct right now. I wouldn't be surprised at the next update of the storyline if Blood Angels have been completely turned into Primaris. The same with a bunch of the other other chapters as well. Besides Blood Angels have some pretty damn decent kits right now. They are just not Primaris sized which irks me a little. I'm thinking of buying all Primaris to build my Blood Angels list and give them the Blood Angels weapons from the Blood Angels tac squad kit. Not sure how the Blood Angel Heavy flamer will look on a Primaris model though. I might go get one of those small boxes after work today to do a test model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338477-have-there-been-rumors-of-when/#findComment-4874488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 (edited) It's not the first time they've been nearly extinct, and they recovered just fine without Primaris last time. The BA won't be an all Primaris chapter, as that invalidates tree full sets, three characters, and and their heroes and upgrade packs. Also, the BA can literally make a fully grown marine in one year, where as the Primaris still tend to follow the standard process, so output will be the same regardless, but are costlier to make. Also I don't understand the Ultramarine statement. They did get an update, all of the Primaris line. And it especially doesn't fall in line with what just happened. That's like saying the Death guard and Thousand Sons won't get their treatment because chaos didn't get an update (and they didn't...). Notice they got an update despite chaos not? Let's look at some others: Crimson Fists were practically extinct: still have regular marines. I mean they even lost their fortress monastery. So they literally lost everything, and still have normal. The Imperial Fists were practically extinct: still have regular marines. --- Also, based on rules, pricing, etc. we have zero indication that the Primaris are intended to phase out normal marines, who actually got new units (lieutenants). Even GW said it's not a phase out. So if nothing is saying it is, why do we keep insisting it is? Edited September 1, 2017 by Arkangilos Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338477-have-there-been-rumors-of-when/#findComment-4874501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indefragable Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 With the next three after Death Guard and Ad Mech confirmed to be Eldar, Nids and Imperial Guard I'm starting to think we may get some new models after all. Maybe they're going to give all of the non-codex chapters the Death Guard and Thousand Sons treatment? That would be an extensive overhaul. And even though I am a Power Armor guy, I think forces like Imperial Guard are in much more need of a sweeping update. It would honestly be kind of depressing if only Power armored factions got new stuff for the next year. Arkangilos 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338477-have-there-been-rumors-of-when/#findComment-4874502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 As awesome as a TS/DG treatment would be....I really doubt it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338477-have-there-been-rumors-of-when/#findComment-4874580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 As awesome as a TS/DG treatment would be....I really doubt it. I'm not even sure what that would mean in the first place. Honestly it's more that they are getting the SW/DA/BA treatment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338477-have-there-been-rumors-of-when/#findComment-4874589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 (edited) With the next three after Death Guard and Ad Mech confirmed to be Eldar, Nids and Imperial Guard I'm starting to think we may get some new models after all. Maybe they're going to give all of the non-codex chapters the Death Guard and Thousand Sons treatment? That would be an extensive overhaul. And even though I am a Power Armor guy, I think forces like Imperial Guard are in much more need of a sweeping update. It would honestly be kind of depressing if only Power armored factions got new stuff for the next year.Wasnt there a modeler saying that for the last 2 or 3 years they have been working on models for 8th ed? I am hoping that means more updates to various factions and updates to non-codex marines too. Right now I am seeing 4 sizes in my tiny SW army already. PA Njal, grey hunters, greigor, reiver are all differently scaled, from shortest to tallest. It is quite the eyesore. It looks like Greigor might be the same scale as DG though less bulky? Comparing the DG to the average SW units shows a despair of size. A Plague Marine being larger than a SW termie, and a poxwalker as tall as a Grey Hunter, PM termie overshadowing them all. It is a OCD nightmare i imagine. Edited September 1, 2017 by Caldersson Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338477-have-there-been-rumors-of-when/#findComment-4874621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aothaine Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 With the next three after Death Guard and Ad Mech confirmed to be Eldar, Nids and Imperial Guard I'm starting to think we may get some new models after all. Maybe they're going to give all of the non-codex chapters the Death Guard and Thousand Sons treatment? That would be an extensive overhaul. And even though I am a Power Armor guy, I think forces like Imperial Guard are in much more need of a sweeping update. It would honestly be kind of depressing if only Power armored factions got new stuff for the next year.Wasnt there a modeler saying that for the last 2 or 3 years they have been working on models for 8th ed? I am hoping that means more updates to various factions and updates to non-codex marines too. Right now I am seeing 4 sizes in my tiny SW army already. PA Njal, grey hunters, greigor, reiver are all differently scaled, from shortest to tallest. It is quite the eyesore. It looks like Greigor might be the same scale as DG though less bulky? Comparing the DG to the average SW units shows a despair of size. A Plague Marine being larger than a SW termie, and a poxwalker as tall as a Grey Hunter, PM termie overshadowing them all. It is a OCD nightmare i imagine. I feel you. It would be nice. But if they were going to be adding new sculpts to most armies they should have just released new chaos space marine sprues. They are really really old. Which leads me to believe that they are phasing out the smaller scale lines unless the scale fits them. T'au, Tyranids, Orks, IG are all sized decently well. IG will get some new models as Cadia doesn't exist as an Imperial planet anymore. It would make sense for them to re-brand their image. I don't plan on using any named characters with my Flesh Tearers so I'll be modeling the entire line with Primaris bodies using the rules for the devastators and tactical squads. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338477-have-there-been-rumors-of-when/#findComment-4874640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Or they would just call them Imperial Guard Squads. The Cadian design is a standard design. Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338477-have-there-been-rumors-of-when/#findComment-4874662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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