Toomanyprojects Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 So, I've finally managed to get together enough bitz to make a Chaos Knight Titan to support the Death guard army that I will invariably get when they come out. However, as this is going to be a big centrepiece model for the army i'd like to give it lots of different features to make it really stand out. I had a couple of ideas: - Make the Gatling Cannon rotate and possibly have a flashing LED to simulate shells being fired - Glowing eyes - Flickering power unit (rear chimneys light up with a sort of infernal furnace vibe) - A thermal cannon that actually shoots fire! ( R/c car glow plug and magician's flash paper, obviously not to be used during actual games no matter how cool it might be :) ) Hope to be posting progress on here, but before I start I thought I should put this up and see if anyone has any experience/resources that I might have missed, it never hurts to ask for another opinion after all :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338633-all-singing-and-all-dancing-renegade-knight/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Are you sure flash paper won't damage the plastic of the knight? I mean, I like the sound of what you're planning to do but let's not potentially burn your model now, eh? ;) Toomanyprojects 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338633-all-singing-and-all-dancing-renegade-knight/#findComment-4867989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teetengee Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293146-team-fisto-true-scale-heresy-imperial-fists-with-leds/ Toomanyprojects 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338633-all-singing-and-all-dancing-renegade-knight/#findComment-4868067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomanyprojects Posted August 25, 2017 Author Share Posted August 25, 2017 Are you sure flash paper won't damage the plastic of the knight? I mean, I like the sound of what you're planning to do but let's not potentially burn your model now, eh? Flash paper has a low burning point well below the melting point of most thermoplastics. Although to combat any possibility of an accident I think i'll be using a small metal pipe to move the flame along to the mouth of the thermal cannon Teetengee 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338633-all-singing-and-all-dancing-renegade-knight/#findComment-4868099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Are you going to have a cpu (like an arduino or something) controlling the things or are you hardwiring the functions separately? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338633-all-singing-and-all-dancing-renegade-knight/#findComment-4868100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomanyprojects Posted August 25, 2017 Author Share Posted August 25, 2017 CPU or a processor might be a tad too complex for my meagre skills, i can get the effects I want by hardwiring I think Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338633-all-singing-and-all-dancing-renegade-knight/#findComment-4868112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 So a RLC circuit for the power unit or something? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338633-all-singing-and-all-dancing-renegade-knight/#findComment-4868115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Are you sure flash paper won't damage the plastic of the knight? I mean, I like the sound of what you're planning to do but let's not potentially burn your model now, eh? Flash paper has a low burning point well below the melting point of most thermoplastics. Although to combat any possibility of an accident I think i'll be using a small metal pipe to move the flame along to the mouth of the thermal cannon Fair enough. The gauge of pipe you'll need will be quite small, mind. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338633-all-singing-and-all-dancing-renegade-knight/#findComment-4868116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azekai Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 This sounds completely insane. I was with you up until the bit with the pyrotechnics, hah!At least when you table your opponents with your knight you can celebrate in style!*pew* *pew* Toomanyprojects 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338633-all-singing-and-all-dancing-renegade-knight/#findComment-4868128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomanyprojects Posted August 25, 2017 Author Share Posted August 25, 2017 So a RLC circuit for the power unit or something? Think i should be able to manage it with a couple of batteries. LEDs are low voltage items and so is the glow plug so I think that will suffice. regarding the pipe, I have a few ideas in mind. This will probably be a rather slow build, i want to mock everything up on the tabletop before it ever gets near the knight This sounds completely insane. I was with you up until the bit with the pyrotechnics, hah! At least when you table your opponents with your knight you can celebrate in style! *pew* *pew* I'd be lying if I said the idea hadn't occurred :) it is a Chaos knight after all :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338633-all-singing-and-all-dancing-renegade-knight/#findComment-4868130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
K0rtmer Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Are you sure flash paper won't damage the plastic of the knight? I mean, I like the sound of what you're planning to do but let's not potentially burn your model now, eh? Flash paper has a low burning point well below the melting point of most thermoplastics. Although to combat any possibility of an accident I think i'll be using a small metal pipe to move the flame along to the mouth of the thermal cannon Not meaning to derail the discussion, but there's no such thing as a "burning point". Flash paper, or nitrocellulose, actually burns at a very high temperature. It's comparatively safe because it burns fast, so heat transfer is limited in time. However, what's relevant for assessing durability of the plastic isn't so much the temperature, but the released energy density and total amount of energy transferred. In tight, enclosed spaces like a Knight's cannon ... I'd err on the side of caution, to be honest. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338633-all-singing-and-all-dancing-renegade-knight/#findComment-4868561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomanyprojects Posted August 26, 2017 Author Share Posted August 26, 2017 Apologies, I knew it wouldn't melt the plastic but I didn't quite know the science behind it. As I've said though, I do agree that just doing bare plastic is a stupid idea just in case I'm wrong :) I will either use a small metal pipe or line the inside of the cannon's barrels with foil to protect the plastic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338633-all-singing-and-all-dancing-renegade-knight/#findComment-4868611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 My question is why use a flame to represent a radiation gun? A laser pointer would be more accurate! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338633-all-singing-and-all-dancing-renegade-knight/#findComment-4868882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Take a look at fake candles and get inspiration from them? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338633-all-singing-and-all-dancing-renegade-knight/#findComment-4868986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomanyprojects Posted August 27, 2017 Author Share Posted August 27, 2017 (edited) Oookay then. So it looks like the glow plug flash paper idea Is actually a bad one. I'm planning on using this as an actual gaming model and whilst I was planning to incorporate an awful lot of safety features into the model and Of course I wouldn't use the effect during the game,I would still be held liable if some kid came along halfway through a game and pressed the button to set it off in his own face. Not gonna happen. I've also been worried by the instructional videos on making this sort of mechanism, which seem to actually eject the flash paper from the gun before ignition. Not only is this not the effect that I'm after, it also makes such things very unpredictable. So for the sake of my own conscience, and my own criminal record if something goes wrong and it ends up hurting someone, I'm moving on :). There will be other effects that I'll use instead. Hopefully I'll actually have some pictures to show you all in the next couple of weeks as I actually construct the damn thing :) Edited August 27, 2017 by Toomanyprojects Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338633-all-singing-and-all-dancing-renegade-knight/#findComment-4869389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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