Sgt. Blank Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I am wondering what others are doing as far as modeling Chaos Icons - are you using a banner pole or simply informing your opponent which model is carrying it without actually modelling it? I'm in the process of building an additional unit of Berserkers and, now that the Icon of Wrath provides a fairly worthwhile benefit, I'm planning to include it as part of the regular load-out. I intend to equip the Champion with the Icon as he'll be the last model I remove as a casualty in virtually every circumstance. He will also have a powerfist and chainsword - part of the issue is that I'm trying to represent three items with only two arms. Attaching something to the backpack may be a good alternative but I was curious if anyone else had a better solution. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonlover Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Could give him an extra fancy helmet, as though his crest is the icon? Dragonlover ElDuderino 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 A grisly trophy mounted on top of his backpack? Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothical Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I don't think the Champ can carry an Icon - the rules specify "One Khorne Berzerker may..." rather than "One model may..." This is a distinction that all of the Cult units have compared to the "normal" units, which all have the latter wording. Sgt. Blank 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 (edited) Pretty sure you can't give the Champion an icon. Edit: I got ninjaed Edited August 27, 2017 by Noctus Cornix Sgt. Blank 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I used the banner pole for my Berzerkers' Icon of Wrath. For Icons of Vengeance on my big Marine squads, I usually just attach them to the backpack; not sitting on top but hanging from the back. I used the generic IoV for one but I was going to use the old WFB Dark Elf banner-toppers for any others because of how Alpha Legion-y they are (a serpent, the cthulu-ish face). I did them that way for thematic reasons: Alpha Legionnaires tend to sneak, and it's easier to sneak around with a little extra on your backpack than it is carrying a twenty foot pole with a giant icon on top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 My AL icons are nuncio-vox packs. :) http://bolterandchainsword.com/uploads/gallery/album_13297/gallery_61265_13297_78741.jpg Sgt. Blank and Azekai 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azekai Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 My AL icons are nuncio-vox packs. http://bolterandchainsword.com/uploads/gallery/album_13297/gallery_61265_13297_78741.jpg Subtle. I like it; great fit for the Alpha Legion. I have used the flagellant banner for my DG's Icon of Despair. Sgt. Blank 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Blank Posted August 27, 2017 Author Share Posted August 27, 2017 Thanks for all the replies - sounds like most people are representing icons on their models. Gothical and Noctus Cornix, good point on the rules, I'd missed that distinction and glad you pointed it out before things are glued on. I'm working from the box of bloodbound warriors, so I may just use the banner in the kit, an axe and a sheathed sword from the Berserkers kit to represent the chainsword. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrassClaw Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 For my Berzerkers, I use the skullreapers icons I just glue them on the back of the power pack. I also really like the bloodreavers icon, i'm currently using a pair in my traitor guard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscipleOfTheWord Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Beastmen and ogre kingdoms banners work great if you freehand chaos sigils on them, but they do have to be held in a hand as they are far too big to be on a backpack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaliGn Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 I'm all about the hand held banners personally, I use fantasy knight lances as a starting point and then add stuff from there, icons, banners, trophies etc plan is for no two icons to look the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fhanados Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Personally I love the stock standard icon-on-a-pole. It's something that I feel is very thematic of Chaos marine armies. My only issue is getting enough pole carrying arms to model all my icons! Alternatively backpack banners are always a good option (and leave both hands free for modelling extra choppy!) despite seemingly falling out of vogue this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Yeah, no fan of backmounted banners. Handheld is the way to go for me. ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 I also prefer handheld banners. Sgt. Blank 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Closet Skeleton Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Hand held, with proper cloth parts not just icon tops. If loyalists get proper cloth banners then the even more medieval heretics should have even more old fashioned one. I have a lot of spare WHFB parts. The only two I've built so far use Skaven and zombie? parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 How are heretics more medieval? They are warptainted, not thrown back into the past lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azekai Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 (edited) How are heretics more medieval? They are warptainted, not thrown back into the past lol Agreed, I think older CSM design is supposed to send a 'uncivilized patchwork brigand' vibe rather than anything specifically medieval. That having been said, I could see how it comes off as sort of knightly- high, imposing helms and chainmail, lots of daggers and swords as sidearms, that sort of thing. Edit: of course, this only really applies to the old kits like the plastic CSM and terminators. The newer stuff like the Dark Vengeance chosen and the raptor/warp talon kits have a *lot* more of that 'tainted' look with much less emphasis on appearing like cobbled-together renegades. Edited August 30, 2017 by Azekai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChazSexington Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I use either the one from the CSM box or a Vexilla or Legion banner for a less corrupted look. Vexilla and Legion banner is better for Icon of Vengeance, but I also like the Kromlech and Marauder banners for a more Chaos-player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Closet Skeleton Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 How are heretics more medieval? They are warptainted, not thrown back into the past lol Mainly its the chainmail but the horned helmets and other pits of fantasy chaos crossover don't hurt. Space Wolves and Black Templars have similar things going on but its more the norm for chaos and more exceptional for loyalists. The Deathguard have chainmail, so no it isn't just the older models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 How are heretics more medieval? They are warptainted, not thrown back into the past lol Mainly its the chainmail but the horned helmets and other pits of fantasy chaos crossover don't hurt. Space Wolves and Black Templars have similar things going on but its more the norm for chaos and more exceptional for loyalists. The Deathguard have chainmail, so no it isn't just the older models. Well in case you didn't notice, Space Marines are literally knights in space with their armor, swords/mace/etc. and shields. It's really not just a chaos thing if you think about it. ^^ Commissar K. 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 And which models have chainmail doesn't really have anything to do with modelling icons, now has it? Stay on target people. ChazSexington and Iron Father Ferrum 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnboardG1 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 For my Berzerkers I'm probably going to get the new skulls pack and stick them on an appropriately sized pike atop the backpack (I suspect I have a few in my ancient Brettonians battleforce I never built). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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