nusphigor Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Hi guys! I've been looking through my marines stuff, saw that i have some scouts that i want to give some use. Then i saw the recon company rite and got curious. ¿is it any fun to play with? How would you build the army around recon scouts, specially with word bearers? Cheers! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338724-thoughts-on-a-recon-company-rite-army/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I experimented with Recon company, it suffers a bit from Recon squads being a bit overcosted still and a badly written ROW but can work certainly! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338724-thoughts-on-a-recon-company-rite-army/#findComment-4869837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nusphigor Posted August 30, 2017 Author Share Posted August 30, 2017 thanks mate. but how did you support them? what kind of units? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338724-thoughts-on-a-recon-company-rite-army/#findComment-4872778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Legionnaire Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 IMHO the question should be the other way around. What kind of list profits from 3 recon units and LRC RoW ? A list that can either bring multiple units with the 'Scout' USR, or one making heavy use of Nuncios. Personally, thinking about it, I believe that LRC and Word Bearers have little to offer to each other. Sure, obvious thing would be to DS Gal Vorbak next to recon units with Voxes. Or deploy shrouded Gal Vorbak with an attached Vigilator (requiring you to bring 3 HQs being much too expensive). Or use recon units as spotters for (elite slot) artillery. I play LRC extensively, but my Legion is the XXth and I can just give out the 'Scout' USR like I see fit. In my case Vet Tacs and support squads work very well in tandem with the recon units. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338724-thoughts-on-a-recon-company-rite-army/#findComment-4873194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 So my last opponent in the 30k campaign I'm in was using just that... a Word Bearers Recon Company! He had: Zardu + Blade Slaves Consul with burning lore upgrade Vigilator 2 Recon squads in Rhinos with Melta guns (I think) and pintle multi meltas 1 Squad of snipers Big blob of Gal'Vorbak The re-roll to sieze/ to go first (forget which) combined with infiltrate and scout means he can put those Rhinos easily within Melta range pre-turn one and almost guaranteed to go first. Luckily all my Custodes stuff has Ceramite, but he did a few HP! The Gal'Vorbak did infiltrate, but I got to do mine first so could push them back. He summoned a daemonic herald that have him (with some luck) a 2++ The recon squads were cool, being on me first turn, but soon got dismantled, the cover saves really made him strong in the first turn though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338724-thoughts-on-a-recon-company-rite-army/#findComment-4873255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Legionnaire Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 The only melta available to a recon squad apart from their transport vehicle is a combi-melta on the sergeant. Infiltrate does not confer to the Gal Vorbak. Fenbain 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338724-thoughts-on-a-recon-company-rite-army/#findComment-4873320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Must not have infiltrated them then. Just scouted. And yeah, think it was a combi Melta! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338724-thoughts-on-a-recon-company-rite-army/#findComment-4873730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFlutterPie Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Can you take a Land Raider Proteus as a dedicated transport and give it a Explorator Augury Web so that it has the Scout special rule to benefit from the ROW? If so then you can 1. Start the Proteus on the table turn 1 due to being a dedicated transport instead of a heavy support unit. 2. Get shrouded first turn due to using the scout special rule. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338724-thoughts-on-a-recon-company-rite-army/#findComment-4873878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Legionnaire Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Recon squads can't do it, but any unit that can take a Proteus as a dedicated transport and fit inside it with the reduced transport capacity can benefit from this, yeah. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338724-thoughts-on-a-recon-company-rite-army/#findComment-4873884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFlutterPie Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Sweet! I was thinking of using a command squad to unlock a DT Proteus as I needed a squad that could fit in the reduced transport capacity because of the Explorator Augury Web. Prepare to face my sneaky heavy tanks of DOOOOOOM!!!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338724-thoughts-on-a-recon-company-rite-army/#findComment-4873893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 (edited) The only unit that I know of that can pull off this trick is a Seeker Squad; an expensive addition to an already points-dense army build. Command squads are 1 per MotL (barring special Hqs like Delegatus). Edited September 1, 2017 by Slips Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338724-thoughts-on-a-recon-company-rite-army/#findComment-4874116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Legionnaire Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Destroyers can do it as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338724-thoughts-on-a-recon-company-rite-army/#findComment-4874210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Destroyers can do it as well. Once they fix destroyers and make them less of a purely fluff choice, and I do love my 20 destroyers, then it might be a worthwhile use for an elites slot. Otherwise, youre probably better off with seekers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338724-thoughts-on-a-recon-company-rite-army/#findComment-4874303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFlutterPie Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I plan on using 1 unit of seekers and 1 command squad to get 2 scouting and shrouded AV14 bricks. I play BA so I slap my recon guys in rhinos with Assault Cannons. I can scout up to get closer to the enemy to get into range of the Assault Cannons faster. Then the Recon guys create a nice vox bubble to start deep striking in assault marines, dreddclaw tac support squads and landspeeders with no scatter. All while being supported by rapiers in the back field. Then if I ever get the courage to assemble a Fire Raptor they will be my HS units as they have to start in reserve anyways and I can use the Explorator Augury Web to re roll my reserve rolls. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338724-thoughts-on-a-recon-company-rite-army/#findComment-4874381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Isnt the ETA +1 to reserves (or -1 to enemy) whilst the Damocles is the reroll? Either way, if youre going reserves heavy, pay the points and definitely include a Damocles too if you have the HQ slot open; that it also gives you an orbital bombardment is nice. Unsure if you can give it an assault cannon though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338724-thoughts-on-a-recon-company-rite-army/#findComment-4874406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFlutterPie Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 The EAW allows you to re-roll your reserve roll (successful or failed) and the Damocles allows you to +1 or -1 to your reserve roll. If you stack the two you pretty much come on when you want too lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338724-thoughts-on-a-recon-company-rite-army/#findComment-4874616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 thanks mate. but how did you support them? what kind of units? Oooh sorry dude, not been reading this forum so much recently due to deadness :( But off the top of my head i was backing it with a savage amount of arty (2 Medusas, 2 Scorpius' plus some other odds and ends) and using the voxes to pinpoint drop it all, i was planning on some DS-ing terminators with Golg but i recall that not being quite workable? (not got my books or armylists to hand here at my folks!). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338724-thoughts-on-a-recon-company-rite-army/#findComment-4876247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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