Is Celestine really OP/undercosted?

[sedibear]

Come on, guys. Just because this is the first time we got SSS tier rules doesn't mean we have to feel guilty while using them.

[Servant of Dante]

On the other hand, overpowered units are bad even if they're in your army.

 

Anyway, I've not played with Celestine enough to have a real opinion, she seems very good to me, not sure if she need adjustment or not.

[Atrus]

Shes a heavy hitter but at the end of the days shes just a collection of T3 wounds with armour that can be easily bypassed in this day of rending ap. She doesnt deal mortal wounds or anything crazy like that and she certainly cant ignore them.

[Beams]

She might have been great in the index days, but there's a lot of codex stuff that makes her seem weak. See GMDK with a 2++ or Voldus

[Matt_149]

Yes after playing her some more t3 means she is wounded on 2s and 3s by most things and focused fire can remove her quite quickly. I think she is fine as she is atm. I'm sure more op things will be out soon that relegates her and us...

[A.T.]

She might have been great in the index days, but there's a lot of codex stuff that makes her seem weak. See GMDK with a 2++ or Voldus

 

It's worth noting how she (and any attached sister unit) was used in the mixed tourney lists - she isn't the heavy lifter or backbone of any of them but rather a cheap unit to pick of stragglers and provide a big distraction, which is something she is really good at.

[ERJAK]

 

 

 

Commisar Yarrick :3, 130pts

 

Ah, of course. I must have been thrown off by his lack of wings, lack of resurrection, lack of anything resembling a living saint weapon and the fact that he's not a living saint.

Guard don't need more stuff.

[CrusherJoe]

This is my typical response to anyone suggesting Celestine is OP/undercosted/needing a nerf:

 

 

 

...now, because Sisters players can't have nice things, I fully expect her to get wanked somehow.

 

But don't leave it up to me...if it were up to me, I'd have her keep her points, raise to T4 and A8.

 

But that's just me. 

[Montford]

I played my first game against Guilliman today. Celestine is not even close to OP LOL.

[sedibear]

I suppose it's more because she's one of the fastest moving distractions currently in the game.

 

On the first turn she can be so deep into the enemy territory and can basically tie up any unit you want out of action next turn. Force that big thing or big blob to fall back if they want to use it.

[Blackarmor_redtruth]

The need for a generic and customizable Saint is much, though I fear the days of customizing anything past a generic canoness are not for our future.

[Drider]

I dunno. I think Living Saint status should be reserved to unique named character models. I do think we could benefit from more flavors of Living Saint, but a customizable HQ is something we need as well. Bring back Canoness with jump pack, bring back Palatine. 

 

Sisters have the core fundamentals of a decent codex, it just needs built on. Give us more options and more "viable" ways to play our army without having to dip into other imperial factions for this unit or that unit.

[Servant of Dante]

Again, living Saint shouldn't be synonymous with magic powers. Celestine is the exception not the rule as far as I'm concerned.

[Drider]

There's no reason that they should be magic. But a living saint is so rare that they should be named characters. And there is a lot that a mere mortal could do which can be attributed to an inspiring presence, no warp powered shenanigans required.

 

Anyway... this thread seems to have reached the end of its natural life and has desolved into the usual 'off topicness'.

[Servant of Dante]

I agree, it just seems most people ask for a generic version of Celestine, which I would not appreciate.

[Aqui]

As it seems that all that can be discussed, has been, I'm giving it the Emperor's Peace =][=