Raven1 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 (edited) So I have been thinking about Tzaangor Rhino rush and the idea so crazy it just might work. I made up a quick list. It has two main components. Things that hang back and things that rush forward as fast as possible. Edited Battalion 1 HQ Demonprince wings, demonic axe and warp bolter x2 Troops Tzaangors in Rhino with combibolter and havoc launcher x3 Heavy support Predator twinlascannon with lascannon sponsons x2 Battalion 2 HQ Malefic lord x2 Troops 10 Blue horrors (plus points for 10 Brimstone horrors) x3 Super heavy auxilary Magnus the Red (points reserved for 2 Spawn) 1998 points Edited September 11, 2017 by Raven1 Brother Aiwass and N1SB 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1SB Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 So I have been thinking about Tzaangor Rhino rush and the idea so crazy it just might work. I made up a quick list. It has two main components. Things that hang back and things that rush forward as fast as possible. Edited Battalion 1 HQ Demonprince wings, demonic axe and warp bolter x2 Troops Tzaangors in Rhino with combibolter and havoc launcher x3 Heavy support Predator twinlascannon with lascannon sponsons x2 Battalion 2 HQ Malefic lord x2 Troops 10 Blue horrors (plus points for 10 Brimstone horrors) x3 Super heavy auxilary Magnus the Red (points reserved for 2 Spawn) 1998 points Hi Brother, just in the spirit of being helpful, forwarded your list to the guy who plays Tzaangor Rhino Rush in our meta. Now, he's got some minor observations. Don't let that turn you off. It happens, since he's already got experience playing this concept, he's seen some trends. Perhaps consider Earthshaker Batteries over Predators I reckon you already got Las-Preds, but if it's not the case, consider the Earthshaker Batteries. In case you hadn't looked at them in 8th, they're in Forgeworld's Imperial Armour - Astra Militarum book WITH Renegades & Heretics. Basically, you can get these because Renegades & Heretics have a list of normally Imperium-only units they can "borrow". Remember, in this age of Detachments, it all falls under Faction: Chaos. Aside from Earthshakers' low cost, the player warned against LOS-loss, where all your own stuff might end up blocking line of sight. Earthshakers are artillery. This isn't just jibber-jabber, I suggested Earthshakers to HIM after reading about them here in B&C. I'm getting some, he's getting some. 4 to 6 Tzaangor Rhinos Disclaimer - he's a tournament player and he's known for taking loads of Troops, like he'd take all 6 Troops slots and still take a Scouts formation for more bodies. At 2000 points, he remarked 3 squads might not be enough. He'd go for (and I had predicted this) 6. Pre-8th that's his inclination because of the old Force Org Chart, nowadays in 8th it's so you can get double Battalion Detachments for those sweet, sweet Command Points. He knows he leans more towards Troops than others, and wants to you to please suggest at least consider 4. But then he said something else that actually might help you here... Magnus might need something to draw fire from him His concern is for Magnus's survivability in 2000 points. He used to run Maulerfiends running alongside Rhinos as distractions, but has apparently phased them out because they weren't doing a good enough job. +++++ On that note, let me share what I believe he's moving towards for his list. 6 Tzaangor Rhinos, barebones X number of Flying Daemon Princes with Malefic Talons Y number of Earthshaker Batteries Z number of Wyverns (also a cheap artillery weapon, often overlooked, meant for anti-horde. Comes as alternative to IG Hydra kit) Raven1 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Closet Skeleton Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Malefic lords are highly likely to get hit with the nerf bat and probably already would have if Forgeworld were as fast at FAQs as regular GW. Khornestar and the jeske 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Withershadow Posted September 17, 2017 Author Share Posted September 17, 2017 (edited) The "designer commentary" mentioned previously in this thread no longer seems to be available (404). Anyone got a link on another site? Google searches result in nothing. Edited September 17, 2017 by Withershadow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven1 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 A transport and embarked units count as a single drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 The "designer commentary" mentioned previously in this thread no longer seems to be available (404). Anyone got a link on another site? Google searches result in nothing. It's still available for me: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/23/updated-faqs-and-boots-on-the-groundgw-homepage-post-2/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Withershadow Posted September 18, 2017 Author Share Posted September 18, 2017 The "designer commentary" mentioned previously in this thread no longer seems to be available (404). Anyone got a link on another site? Google searches result in nothing. It's still available for me: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/23/updated-faqs-and-boots-on-the-groundgw-homepage-post-2/ Cool, thanks, I was getting a 404 error earlier. Must have been a glitch or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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