Daimhin Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I'm putting together my first Horus Heresy army (literally putting it together - most of it is purchased and still sitting in FW bags!) and I have decided to run pre-Heresy/ loyalist Emperor's Children in an Orbital Assault list. What concerns me at the minute is that as I look at going from 3-4k I'm aware that I'm likely to face more and more heavy armour and super-heavies and I don't have my own to counter them. I'm aware that this is a problem for OA lists and it might just be that they don't scale well. I currently have the following in my list for dealing with armour - 1x Primaries Lightning 1x Melta support squad (5-man) 1x Leviathan (dual-CC weapons) 2x Javelin (MM and Cyclone) Options I'm considering currently - CC and grav equipped Contemptor Sky Slayers with MM Sky Hunters with melts/bombs Sun Killers (8-man Lascannon w/Seige Breaker) My question is how would you advise dealing with super-heavies/ massed AR14 in an Orbital Assault list? Thanks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339253-orbital-assault-and-enemy-armour/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Machine-Killer veterans are probably my favourite. With combi-meltas/meltaguns, even against armoured ceramite, they're basically short-range lascannons able to be deployed from nasty angles, and if they don't have armoured ceramite (as the overwhelming majority of vehicles will not)...the tank is dead. Another favourite of mine not on your list is a melta-lance armed Leviathan. Grav-armed Dreadnoiughts of various builds are the most reliable AV you get in an Orbital Assault list, but do not come cheap. Sunkillers are a bad idea here when they're forced to deploy via pod. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339253-orbital-assault-and-enemy-armour/#findComment-4882873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daimhin Posted September 11, 2017 Author Share Posted September 11, 2017 Thanks. I have a spare dreadnaught drop pod, so I might get at least 1 Contemptor. What do you think of a squad of Catephractii with chainfists and meltas teleporting in? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339253-orbital-assault-and-enemy-armour/#findComment-4882905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 What do you think of a squad of Catephractii with chainfists and meltas teleporting in? Super awesome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339253-orbital-assault-and-enemy-armour/#findComment-4882972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Landspeeder with grav and melta could also work. But as about machine killer vets is what Im planning for my nightlords Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339253-orbital-assault-and-enemy-armour/#findComment-4883118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Machine-Killer veterans are probably my favourite. With combi-meltas/meltaguns, even against armoured ceramite, they're basically short-range lascannons able to be deployed from nasty angles, and if they don't have armoured ceramite (as the overwhelming majority of vehicles will not)...the tank is dead.How big is said squad in your army?I have problems to find the right size and take every hint you can give me. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339253-orbital-assault-and-enemy-armour/#findComment-4883384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I was thinking 10 to get the two melta guns to use after alpha strike Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339253-orbital-assault-and-enemy-armour/#findComment-4883406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I was thinking 10 to get the two melta guns to use after alpha strikeJust ten dudes with 2 Meltas?Nothing more? I was thinking about six Veterans with four Combi-Meltas, one regular Melta, Meltabombs and Artificer Armour on the sarge to tank stuff. That'll be 202 points plus Dreadclaw. Or should I take an additional Combi-Melta guy, just to be sure? LtDan 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339253-orbital-assault-and-enemy-armour/#findComment-4883448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daimhin Posted September 12, 2017 Author Share Posted September 12, 2017 These are the options I'm thinking of adding. I'll be putting any 2/3 of these into my list as it goes from 3000 to 4000. Contemptor Dreadnought [320pts] Dreadnought Chainfist, Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon 2x Graviton Gun, Extra Armour Legion Dreadnought Drop Pod Contemptor Dreadnought Talon [320pts] Kheres Pattern Assault Cannons, Dreadnought Chainfist, Graviton Gun, Extra Armour Legion Dreadnought Drop Pod Legion Rapier Weapons Battery [90pts] Laser Destroyer Array, Legion Drop Pod Legion Terminator Squad [260pts]: Cataphractii Terminator Armour Legion Terminator Sergeant: Chainfist, Combi-Melta 4x Legion Terminators: Chainfist, Combi-Melta Legion Veteran Tactical Squad [185pts]: Veteran Tactics: Machine Killers Legion Veteran Sergeant: Combi-Melta 4x Legion Veteran Space Marines: Combi-Melta Legion Drop Pod Legion Veteran Tactical Squad [385pts]: Veteran Tactics: Machine Killers, Melta Bombs, Legion Vexilla Legion Veteran Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Phoenix Spear, Combi-Melta 7x Legion Veteran Space Marines: Combi-Melta 2x Legion Veteran Space Marines: Meltagun, Power Sword Legion Drop Pod Primaris-Lightning Strike Fighter [230pts]: Battle Servitor Control, Ground-tracking Auguries, 2x Kraken Penetrator Heavy missile Leviathan Siege Dreadnought [410pts]: Leviathan Siege Claw, Leviathan Siege Drill, 2x Heavy Flamer, Phosphex Discharger, Armoured Ceramite Legion Dreadnought Drop Pod I'm currently tending towards the dual-CC Contemptor plus a 5-man Veteran squad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339253-orbital-assault-and-enemy-armour/#findComment-4883733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 (edited) Edited. Edited September 12, 2017 by LtDan Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339253-orbital-assault-and-enemy-armour/#findComment-4884203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 I was thinking 10 to get the two melta guns to use after alpha strikeJust ten dudes with 2 Meltas?Nothing more? I was thinking about six Veterans with four Combi-Meltas, one regular Melta, Meltabombs and Artificer Armour on the sarge to tank stuff. That'll be 202 points plus Dreadclaw. Or should I take an additional Combi-Melta guy, just to be sure? I meant with 8 combis too. Just max out the squad to get the 2 meltas so after they unleash the first salvo they still have the 2 meltas. Id prob give them melta bombs too Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339253-orbital-assault-and-enemy-armour/#findComment-4884205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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