Is it possible to run nothing but Characters? Is it viable?

[CCE1981]

Just recently started looking theough the Grey Knoghts Codex, at lower points certainly but at higher points is it even viable to play a straight Character list?

[Seizeman]

I don't think you can build a decent list without strike squads and transports, but other than that you can play only characters.

 

In my current list, other than 3 strikes, 2 razorbacks and a stormraven, I'm only playing GMDNKs, Draigo and Apothecaries. Sadly, except for those three and Voldus, there are no other good characters, specially if you want to play a lot of them.

[bozo69pd]

Just recently started looking theough the Grey Knoghts Codex, at lower points certainly but at higher points is it even viable to play a straight Character list?

Viability is really determined by the quality of the competition. Against a Thousand Sons player who is using only Sorcerers and Helbrutes sure you have a chance! Against AM, probably not so much.

[Muaddib]

I came up with this one recently :

 

++ Supreme Command Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Grey Knights) [50 PL, 1000pts] ++

+ HQ +

Grand Master in Nemesis Dreadknight [14 PL, 285pts]: 4: First to the Fray, Dreadfist, Dreadfist, Dreadknight teleporter, Gatling Psilencer, Heavy Psycannon, Sanctuary, Warlord

Grand Master in Nemesis Dreadknight [14 PL, 285pts]: Dreadfist, Dreadfist, Dreadknight teleporter, Gate of Infinity, Gatling Psilencer, Heavy Psycannon

Grand Master Voldus [10 PL, 190pts]: Hammerhand, Purge Soul, Sanctuary

Lord Kaldor Draigo [12 PL, 240pts]: Gate of Infinity, Hammerhand

++ Total: [50 PL, 1000pts] ++

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Not the most competitive but I'd like to try it against Mortarion et Magnus!!

[Gentlemanloser]

Play narrative.

 

Use nothing but Apothecaries.

 

Spam Vortex.

[shandwen]

The idea I've seen of a handful of eversor assassin's and a the rest being cheap psykers I'd frightening, so I would think it might be semi-competitive, but you need bodies.

[bozo69pd]

 

I came up with this one recently :

 

++ Supreme Command Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Grey Knights) [50 PL, 1000pts] ++

 

+ HQ +

 

Grand Master in Nemesis Dreadknight [14 PL, 285pts]: 4: First to the Fray, Dreadfist, Dreadfist, Dreadknight teleporter, Gatling Psilencer, Heavy Psycannon, Sanctuary, Warlord

 

Grand Master in Nemesis Dreadknight [14 PL, 285pts]: Dreadfist, Dreadfist, Dreadknight teleporter, Gate of Infinity, Gatling Psilencer, Heavy Psycannon

 

Grand Master Voldus [10 PL, 190pts]: Hammerhand, Purge Soul, Sanctuary

 

Lord Kaldor Draigo [12 PL, 240pts]: Gate of Infinity, Hammerhand

 

++ Total: [50 PL, 1000pts] ++

 

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BattleScribe

 

Not the most competitive but I'd like to try it against Mortarion et Magnus!!

 

Challenge accepted.

 

Supreme command x3

5x malefic lords

 

auxiliary super heavy detachment

Mortarion

 

LET THE SMITES BEGIN! YOU CANNOT DENY THEM ALLLLLLLLL!

[shandwen]

Challenge accepted.

 

Supreme command x3

5x malefic lords

 

auxiliary super heavy detachment

Mortarion

 

LET THE SMITES BEGIN! YOU CANNOT DENY THEM ALLLLLLLLL!

How about a list of nothing but inquisitors... They have more smites.

[Gentlemanloser]

Primaris Psykers are cheaper.

 

And use culexes sins over eversors. Have them up front for a hit on 6 screen and get them into cc so you can't shoot at anyone.

 

But can still smite away.

[Rurik the blessed]

why not Vanguard detachment

+++ Charas (Warhammer 40,000 8th Edition) [96 PL, 1850pts] +++

++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Grey Knights) ++

+ HQ +

Grand Master in Nemesis Dreadknight: Astral Aim, Dreadfist, Dreadfist, Gatling Psilencer, Hammerhand, Heavy Psycannon

Lord Kaldor Draigo: Astral Aim, Gate of Infinity

+ Elites +

Apothecary: Nemesis Force Sword, Sanctuary

Apothecary: Nemesis Force Sword, Sanctuary

Apothecary: Nemesis Force Sword, Sanctuary

Apothecary: Nemesis Force Sword, Sanctuary

Apothecary: Nemesis Force Sword, Sanctuary

Paladin Ancient: Sanctuary
. Psilencer: Psilencer (Terminator)

++ Supreme Command Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Grey Knights) ++

+ HQ +

Brotherhood Champion: Gate of Infinity, Storm bolter

Brotherhood Champion: Gate of Infinity, Storm bolter

Brotherhood Champion: Gate of Infinity, Storm bolter

Brotherhood Champion: Gate of Infinity, Storm bolter

Grand Master in Nemesis Dreadknight: Dreadfist, Dreadfist, Gatling Psilencer, Heavy Psycannon, Purge Soul, Sanctuary

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[bozo69pd]

Just imagine how fast Mortarion would kill all those guys. 50% chance of d3 mortal wounds on each one within 7" every turn. Beam shot from lantern. A few smites on the tough guys. Then an average of 17-18 wounds dealt in melee.

 

Mortarion will have his reveeeennnngggeeee!

[Rurik the blessed]

Just imagine how fast Mortarion would kill all those guys. 50% chance of d3 mortal wounds on each one within 7" every turn. Beam shot from lantern. A few smites on the tough guys. Then an average of 17-18 wounds dealt in melee.

 

Mortarion will have his reveeeennnngggeeee!

and ... how will do it?... if he can't target but the closest one?... there is where apothecary and NDKs show their power.

[Helycon]

He can target NDK's. They're probably at the front, but they will also probably be dead after a round of fighting.

 

Apothecaries can't resist dead units, just dead models from a unit, which is impossible if a unit is a single model. Also, apothecaries can't heal NDK's as they're vehicles. If Morty doesn't kill someone in melee, apothecaries will be useful, otherwise, they're just there to fight, which I'll concede, they're pretty good at.

Edited September 12, 2017 by Helycon

[Reclusiarch Darius]

You could just run Supreme Command detachments with nothing but DK Grandmasters. I dunno about viable, but it would be all kinds of hilarious and brutal. I've been playing my two painted DK's as Grandmasters, and they clean house. 5+ would be pretty skew, lot of armies would have issues dealing with them. 

 

Regarding spamming the cheaper characters, no not really viable. It would be a cool throwback to the Solodin lists of 5th edition, but they're just likely to get bogged down and die. One of the persistent issues we run into as an elite, low model count army is dealing with numerical superiority. I'm going Strike heavy for that reason (even running Purgators as a deployment drop that also mows down infantry well), but even with 30 Strikes I feel intimidated seeing some horde lists with like 100+ models.

 

One thing I would caution is avoid building skew lists or meme builds like that stupid Guilliman+Assassins+Conscripts jank. GW are bound to nerf it, as they did with Ravenspam. If you build a well rounded force, you should avoid getting hit with the nerfhammer whenever some dumb list stomps a tournament and provokes a reaction.

[Godeskian]

While I agree avoiding spam is good, my Culexus loves hanging with his Grey knight buddies. It's absolutely hilarious

[Beams]

I feel like Strikes are there to deal with hordes. They put out okayish firepower and have decent melee to back it up.

 

If you went all GMDK you'd have tons of problems with people in ruins and tons of issues with having enough shooting to kill squads.

 

I think it could be a lot of fun though, especially if your opponent ran all characters.

 

Like: GK Movie List vs. Marines/Ork/Sisters/IG Movie list would be hysterically cool.

[Gentlemanloser]

Tonight a mawlock charged my hammer apoth. (He was on 2 wounds after surviving a 90 shot devil gaunt attack).

 

Spent CP to counter attack with him after a harpy attacked a razor first.

 

Then when the maelock killed him next, used only in death and killed the mawlock in return.

 

Hammer Apoths are amazing.