Drudge Dreadnought Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 I noticed that Sorcerers can take weapons other than force weapons. This is different from Sorcerers in the Index and Codex: CSM and is very powerful (yay Sorc with a powerfist!). I wonder if it was intentional. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339488-questions-for-faqerrata/page/2/#findComment-4890639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 I think the Helbrute thing is intentional, GW did the same thing for Carnifexes and OOE and Hammerheads and Longstrike. If they want them to be a keyword, they'll be FAQ'd to be bolded. Anything else is house rules. Except that GW Errata'd the Hammerhead thing into a Keyword afterwards and even worded it so Longstrike himself can benefit from his own buff (despite already having BS2+). Anyway, I too think it's intentional but wouldn't be too surprised if they were going to change it if enough Death Guard player complain about it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339488-questions-for-faqerrata/page/2/#findComment-4890699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
C'rumzoz Plaguecrest Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Think the Dp wings issue is just the points value at the back. The wings are mentioned in the background bit as well Mack 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339488-questions-for-faqerrata/page/2/#findComment-4890733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterDeath Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 I noticed that Sorcerers can take weapons other than force weapons. This is different from Sorcerers in the Index and Codex: CSM and is very powerful (yay Sorc with a powerfist!). I wonder if it was intentional. You mean Terminator Sorcerors? Those could take other weapons in Codex: CM as well and the Normal Sorcerors are bound to force weapons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339488-questions-for-faqerrata/page/2/#findComment-4890761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wulfgar hammerfist Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Just because this has caused a few arguments in my gaming group... Does "The Dead Walk Again" stratagem allow a unit of poxwalkers to go above their listed maximum strength of 20? The argument is that the poxwalker units are listed as having a max of 20 on their data slate so cannot ever go above that number. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339488-questions-for-faqerrata/page/2/#findComment-4891584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Yes. That argument is irrelevant since it's for purchasing a unit; you can exceed Max squad size without it wulfgar hammerfist 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339488-questions-for-faqerrata/page/2/#findComment-4891593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptix Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Anyone who's trying to argue that it a bloody cheater. Bulwyf, Panzer and Plaguecaster 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339488-questions-for-faqerrata/page/2/#findComment-4891618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drudge Dreadnought Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 I noticed that Sorcerers can take weapons other than force weapons. This is different from Sorcerers in the Index and Codex: CSM and is very powerful (yay Sorc with a powerfist!). I wonder if it was intentional. You mean Terminator Sorcerors? Those could take other weapons in Codex: CM as well and the Normal Sorcerors are bound to force weapons. Ah, you are correct. I couldn't remember the specifics. In Codex: CSM terminator sorcerers can replace their combi-bolter with another combi-weapon or terminator melee weapons, but are stuck with their force weapon. In Codex: DG, they can replace their bolter, or can also replace their force weapon with terminator melee weapons. Hopefully they'll FAQ Codex CSM to be like Codex DG on this one. It'd make Terminator sorcs worthwhile. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339488-questions-for-faqerrata/page/2/#findComment-4891831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wulfgar hammerfist Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Yes. That argument is irrelevant since it's for purchasing a unit; you can exceed Max squad size without it I agree with you, however, it is an argument that exists because it doesn't specifically state that the stratagem allows you to exceed the maximum unit size of 20. It doesn't say you can't either. The argument exists within gaming groups and on several discussion boards therefore it probably needs a sentence to clarify. Simply saying, "I'm right, you're wrong" will not suffice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339488-questions-for-faqerrata/page/2/#findComment-4892008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 I think it's very simple... It's not like you are reviving dead models from the existing unit. You are just adding a new model - no other restrictions. Gumo9 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339488-questions-for-faqerrata/page/2/#findComment-4892027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Yes. That argument is irrelevant since it's for purchasing a unit; you can exceed Max squad size without itI agree with you, however, it is an argument that exists because it doesn't specifically state that the stratagem allows you to exceed the maximum unit size of 20. It doesn't say you can't either. The argument exists within gaming groups and on several discussion boards therefore it probably needs a sentence to clarify. Simply saying, "I'm right, you're wrong" will not suffice. Zombies from aos have a similar mechanic, but are explicitly capped at max unit size Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339488-questions-for-faqerrata/page/2/#findComment-4892052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdemayo Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 (edited) Is there any way to field my old Terminators and bikers as proper Death Guard units? Using the Imdex perhaps? Or am I stuck using them out of C:CSM? Edited September 21, 2017 by tdemayo Hoots 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339488-questions-for-faqerrata/page/2/#findComment-4892469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Is there any way to field my old Terminators and bikers as proper Death Guard units? Using the Imdex perhaps? Or am I stuck using them out of C:CSM? You couldn't take them even in the Index; they were never options for Death Guard in 8th Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339488-questions-for-faqerrata/page/2/#findComment-4892470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguecaster Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Probably dumb question but with the Chaos Familiar of Nurgle stratagem is it possible to swap Smite for one of the Contagion powers ??? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339488-questions-for-faqerrata/page/2/#findComment-4892585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator-Chaplain Ezra Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Probably dumb question but with the Chaos Familiar of Nurgle stratagem is it possible to swap Smite for one of the Contagion powers ??? Well, it *does* say any, so I'd guess so. Perhaps best to ask anyway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339488-questions-for-faqerrata/page/2/#findComment-4892599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 The consensus seems to be that yes it does let you do that :) Interrogator-Chaplain Ezra and Plaguecaster 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339488-questions-for-faqerrata/page/2/#findComment-4892668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vissah Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 For me the two most important questions are: Wings on a Prince. Yes or no? How many points? Are Helbrutes getting the DR special rule? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339488-questions-for-faqerrata/page/2/#findComment-4892743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guidebot Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Does Miasma of Pestilence (psychic power) stack? So if I cast it twice on the same target, is that a cumulative -2 to hit it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339488-questions-for-faqerrata/page/2/#findComment-4892771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Does Miasma of Pestilence (psychic power) stack? So if I cast it twice on the same target, is that a cumulative -2 to hit it? Well at least for matched play it doesn't matter since you can attempt to cast each psychic power only once per turn. Smite being the exception. Guidebot 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339488-questions-for-faqerrata/page/2/#findComment-4892782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guidebot Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Does Miasma of Pestilence (psychic power) stack? So if I cast it twice on the same target, is that a cumulative -2 to hit it? Well at least for matched play it doesn't matter since you can attempt to cast each psychic power only once per turn. Smite being the exception. Ah, right. Thanks for catching that! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339488-questions-for-faqerrata/page/2/#findComment-4892791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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