Opinions on pride of the legion - 1500 points

[Brother Callius]

Hey all.

I'm putting together a 1500 points list for next weekend and I would like to see what you guys have to say to my list so far.

I'm fairly new to making lists so is my best shot so far, and I have no idea what the others are bringing.

 

The force organisation is:

 

Compulsory:  Optional:
    1 HQ            1 HQ
    1 Troops      2 Troops
                        2 Elites
                        2 Fast Attack
                        2 Heavy Support

 

Allegiance:

VII - Imperial Fists

Loyalist

 

Rite of war:

Pride of the legion

 

HQ:

Praetor - 135 pts.

Cataphractii armour, combi-bolter, power maul

 

Elites:

Rapier battery - 75 pts.

Graviton cannon

 

Contemptor dreadnought - 225 pts.

Twin-linked lascannon, chainfist w/ meltagun

 

Troops:

Veteran tac. squad - 223 pts.

Rhino w/ twin-linked bolter

Sergeant w/ plasma pistol, power fist

8 bolter marines w/ 1 vexilla

Veteran tactics - marksmen

 

Veteran tac. squad - 168 pts.

Sergeant w/ bolt pistol, power maul

8 bolter marines w/ 1 vexilla

Veteran tactics - marksmen

 

Fast attack:

Jetbike sky hunter squadron - 145 pts.

3 jetbikes, 1 volkite culverin

 

Heavy support:

Leviathan siege dreadnought - 325 pts.

Grav-flux bombard, siege claw w/ meltagun, 2 heavy flamers, armoured ceramite, phosphex discharger

 

Sicaran battle tank - 205 pts.

Accelerator autocannon, heavy bolter sponsons, armoured ceramite

 

All total -1501 pts.

 

The only things left in my army which is not on the list is:

5 man cataphractii w/ power fists, chainfists and combi bolters - 212 pts.

1 contemptor w/ kheres assault cannon and power fist - 205 pts.

1 vindicator w/ demolisher cannon - 120 pts.

5 man heavy support squad w/ lascannons - 235 pts.

1 centurion in power armour w/ volkite serpenta, chainsword and refractor shield - 65 pts.

Edited September 24, 2017 by Brother Callius

[Warsmith Manat-Yi]

Vets with marksman are very strong, but is suggest giving them either two MLs or heavy bolters with suspensor webs, and artificer armor on the sergeants.

 

I'd shave off points by running the kheres dread over the Las version, and dropping the ceramite on your heavy support. It's less useful in smaller games anyway.

 

On a larger note, two troops choices is a little risky for PotL, since they're a free point if your opponent kills them all. Maybe try to squeeze in a second rhino for squad two at least? That's four targets at least.

 

Also, if you're running Fists, might as well take advantage of their unique junk. A stormshield on the praetor can go a long way. Also, where is he going? With the footslogging vets?

Edited September 24, 2017 by Warsmith Manat-Yi

[Brother Callius]

Vets with marksman are very strong, but is suggest giving them either two MLs or heavy bolters with suspensor webs, and artificer armor on the sergeants.

 

I'd shave off points by running the kheres dread over the Las version, and dropping the ceramite on your heavy support. It's less useful in smaller games anyway.

 

On a larger note, two troops choices is a little risky for PotL, since they're a free point if your opponent kills them all. Maybe try to squeeze in a second rhino for squad two at least? That's four targets at least.

 

Also, if you're running Fists, might as well take advantage of their unique junk. A stormshield on the praetor can go a long way. Also, where is he going? With the footslogging vets?

 

I would love another rhino but I only have one

 

On the ceramite note I've put it there since the last game I had at 1500 my Sicaran was killed by a melta that would have been saved if it had armoured ceramite and I would not want to lose it again so easy.

 

The praetor is going to team up with the vets without a rhino.

I have thought of putting him with a 5 man termie squad but I have no transport for them so I am worried they will be a slow target and won't really go anywhere.

[LtDan]

Whys the preator got a power maul bud?. He is not going to be winning many combats with that. Get him a paragon blade or powerfist

[Brother Callius]

Whys the preator got a power maul bud?. He is not going to be winning many combats with that. Get him a paragon blade or powerfist

 

Great idea, I will definitely swap in a paragon blade 

[carlisimo]

Bit of a faux pas to go one point over, but you do satisfy the rite of war's limitation about most units having the Legiones Astartes rule.  That's often forgotten.

Leviathans without Dreadnought Drop Pods have trouble getting in range of anything, especially with the relatively empty space of a 1500pt battle.  Try it, but you may decide you need more mobility.  You'll eventually want that second Rhino.  With the models you have, I'd suggest teleporting Terminators (only a couple of legions get teleport transponders, and yours is one of them).  If you shave points elsewhere you may be able to get the Vindicator into the list too.  I'd reconsider the armored ceramite on the Sicaran - I can see your logic, but at 1500 points everything needs to be a little more bare-bones.  And in 30k it's common for meltaguns or bombs to come in fives or more, at which point armored ceramite isn't likely to save AV12.

Also remember you don't have to pick your veterans' ability until the beginning of the game.  With bolters it's hard to beat marksman, but you never know.  They have enough attacks for weapon masters to sometimes make sense.