DogWelder Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 (edited) As part of my project to create a directory for all the major Horus Heresy battles and compile info about them (casualties, outcome, forces involved etc.), I thought I'd list the major battles for each SM Legions and see how they compare, starting with the loyalists. Please don't hesitate to correct or add more info if you wish. Note: These are only the battles that I have personally been able to find in canon. To avoid overlap and confusion, I will mainly be looking at each battle independently, not in the context of the wider war. For example: the First Battle of Prospero will be considered a decisive Space Wolf victory despite it having negative consequences for the Imperium at large since the objective of the battle itself was accomplished. I will also be focusing on the individual battles instead of the campaigns. For example: Battle of Calth, Armatura, Nuceria will be considered individually rather than grouped under 'Shadow Crusade' Dark Angels: Decisive Victories: 4 (Battle of Aegis, Battle of Xana, Battle of Perditus, Battle of Zepath) Pyrrhic Victories: 2 (Battle of Caliban, Battle of Diamat) Defeats: 0 Imperial Fists: Decisive Victories: 2 (Battle of Sangraal, Battle of Pluto) Pyrrhic Victories: 2 (Battle of Phall, Battle of Terra) Defeats: 2 (Battle of Mars, First Battle of Hydra Cordatus) Ultramarines: Decisive Victories: 3 (Battle of the Furious Abyss, Battle of Astagar, Battle of Sotha) Pyrrhic Victories: 2 (Battle of Calth, Battle of Desperation) Defeats: 3 (Battle of Armatura, Battle of Nuceria, Battle of Percepton) White Scars: Decisive Victories: 2 (Second Battle of Prospero, Battle of Catallus) Pyrrhic Victories: 0 Defeats: 1 (Battle of Kalium Gate) Salamanders: Decisive Victories: 1 (Battle of Nocturne) Pyrrhic Victories: 0 Defeats: 3 (Battle of Isstvan V, Battle of Iydris, Battle of Mezoa) Space Wolves: Decisive Victories: 2 (First Battle of Prospero, Battle of Baztell III) Pyrrhic Victories: 1 (Battle of the Alaxxes Nebula) Defeats: 2 (Battle of Yarant, Battle of Vannaheim) Iron Hands: Decisive Victories: 1 (Battle of Bodt) Pyrrhic Victories: 0 Defeats: 2 (Battle of Isstvan V, Battle of Iydris) Raven Guard: Decisive Victories: 4 (Battle of the Perfect Fortress, Battle of Constanix II, Battle of Malagant) Pyrrhic Victories: 1 (Battle of Ravendelve) Defeats: 2 (Battle of Isstvan V, Battle of Iydris) Blood Angels: Decisive Victories: 1 (Battle of Signus Prime) Pyrrhic Victories: 2 (Battle of Gilden's Star, Battle of Terra) Defeats: 0 So it seems like the Dark Angels had the best performance with 6 victories and no defeats. Ultramarines and Raven Guard tie for second place with 5 victories each though the RG have more decisive victories. Edited September 24, 2017 by DogWelder Luna707, Allart01, GorgeousGoat and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339770-horus-heresy-battles-compilationscoreboard/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allart01 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Great job! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339770-horus-heresy-battles-compilationscoreboard/#findComment-4894245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna707 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Nice! Great work man Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339770-horus-heresy-battles-compilationscoreboard/#findComment-4894435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlisimo Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Cool idea!I bet the twist to the Caliban story is that the Lion's guys lost and got scattered through the Warp, and the victorious Lutherites repented and created the 40k chapter we all know and love. But they were both Dark Angels so you could count it as a victory or loss and be right either way. If the Imperial Fists and Blood Angels have the Battle of Terra listed, the White Scars should too.The Salamanders won at Mezoa.Don't forget Dwell and Molech, and wasn't there a Dark Angels victory against the Night Lords that started with T? Had a g in the name too? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339770-horus-heresy-battles-compilationscoreboard/#findComment-4895458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogWelder Posted September 25, 2017 Author Share Posted September 25, 2017 Cool idea! I bet the twist to the Caliban story is that the Lion's guys lost and got scattered through the Warp, and the victorious Lutherites repented and created the 40k chapter we all know and love. But they were both Dark Angels so you could count it as a victory or loss and be right either way. If the Imperial Fists and Blood Angels have the Battle of Terra listed, the White Scars should too. The Salamanders won at Mezoa. Don't forget Dwell and Molech, and wasn't there a Dark Angels victory against the Night Lords that started with T? Had a g in the name too? Tsagualsa? Yes I'll have to put that in. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339770-horus-heresy-battles-compilationscoreboard/#findComment-4895501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stix Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Battle of Tallarn: win for IF, IH (and WS?) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339770-horus-heresy-battles-compilationscoreboard/#findComment-4896159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareddm Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 I have...mixed feelings about this kind of thing. I personally feel efforts to discretize the Horus Heresy take away from what an incredible mess of miscommunication, confusion, secret agendas, and broken loyalties that Forge World has worked to build into the history of the Heresy. That said, I fully respect your efforts and wish you the best on completing them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339770-horus-heresy-battles-compilationscoreboard/#findComment-4896485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setlot Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Salamanders should probably be at 2 wins, 2 losses. While not exactly a decisive victory they did win the Mezoan campaign, with the aid of the Iron Warriors, Mechanicum and a knight house. http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Mezoan_Campaign Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339770-horus-heresy-battles-compilationscoreboard/#findComment-4897936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rendingon1+ Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Battle of Tallarn: win for IF, IH (and WS?)Are these shorts for Imperial Fists, Iron Hands and White Scars? If anything Tallarn was an Imperial Army "Victory" only because Iron Warriors left. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339770-horus-heresy-battles-compilationscoreboard/#findComment-4898337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calas Typhon Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Tallarn was anything but a victory. Sure, some imperial forces survived, but the planet was irrevocably destroyed and out of service until after the heresy, It can't be counted as a IF,IH or WS if anyone claims it. The Army gets it, If you link it to a Legion, the Iron Warriors have it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339770-horus-heresy-battles-compilationscoreboard/#findComment-4898466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogWelder Posted September 29, 2017 Author Share Posted September 29, 2017 Tallarn was anything but a victory. Sure, some imperial forces survived, but the planet was irrevocably destroyed and out of service until after the heresy, It can't be counted as a IF,IH or WS if anyone claims it. The Army gets it, If you link it to a Legion, the Iron Warriors have it. Wasn't the point of the real battle to prevent the Iron Warriors from getting the Black Oculus? Since Imperial Agents were ultimately succesfull in destroying the Black Oculus, isn't it an Imperial Victory? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339770-horus-heresy-battles-compilationscoreboard/#findComment-4898485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
M@verik115 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Tallarn was anything but a victory. Sure, some imperial forces survived, but the planet was irrevocably destroyed and out of service until after the heresy, It can't be counted as a IF,IH or WS if anyone claims it. The Army gets it, If you link it to a Legion, the Iron Warriors have it. Wasn't the point of the real battle to prevent the Iron Warriors from getting the Black Oculus? Since Imperial Agents were ultimately succesfull in destroying the Black Oculus, isn't it an Imperial Victory? A pyrrhic at best. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339770-horus-heresy-battles-compilationscoreboard/#findComment-4898539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calas Typhon Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Tallarn was anything but a victory. Sure, some imperial forces survived, but the planet was irrevocably destroyed and out of service until after the heresy, It can't be counted as a IF,IH or WS if anyone claims it. The Army gets it, If you link it to a Legion, the Iron Warriors have it. Wasn't the point of the real battle to prevent the Iron Warriors from getting the Black Oculus? Since Imperial Agents were ultimately succesfull in destroying the Black Oculus, isn't it an Imperial Victory? It was an unknown battle to all but perhaps one or two. As for the destruction of the Black Oculus, I don't think that can be credited to the Imperial Forces as it was an Iron Warrior that destroyed the area which it was housed. It was not even destroyed, it re surfaced 100 years later. The only reason the Iron Warriors were pulled away was due to the intervention of Horus, the Army were about to put up a final push which would more than likely result in a massive defeat. As said, Is it really a victory if your planet is completely corrupted? you are out of service to the imperium, you have lost everyone who was on the surface of the planet due to the pinpoint virus bombing and all your surface resources are gone. I can only give it to the Iron Warriors, even though they did not get the Oculus. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339770-horus-heresy-battles-compilationscoreboard/#findComment-4898751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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