Shieldwolf Miniatures: Sisters of Wolves

[Jack Burton]

Hey all, I've got a reasonably big collection of Sisters of Battle, probably 4K points.  I'm thinking about backing this kickstarter:

 

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1273312680/war-is-coming-warmaidens-and-dragonbreds?ref=349914&token=30c0ee1f

 

for their Sisters of Wolves sci-fi set.  As I see it, there are two options for using these:

 

Sisters of Battle from a 'snowball Earth' convent world, using Ministorum rules from the Imperium Index 2

 

or

 

Something similar in background but using the Space Wolf rules.

 

What do you think, given the miniatures?  Is option 2 just a non-starter?  Would power-armored Sisters with S4 / T4 using Space Wolf rules as a small addition to a Ministorum list be stretching the fluff a bit too much?

[Servant of Dante]

I mean, my view is any armour that doesn't look like the GW Sisters' armour stretches the fluff too far, but feel free to ignore me :D

 

You could probably do something with them as a Minor Order, I mean I'd consider the Sororitas too homogeneous to allow for such deviation (since all are trained on Ophelia and Terra and seem to be identically supplied) but that doesn't mean you can't do it.

 

As for the other idea, some people use Marines rules for Sisters, I never will because the stats don't look like a Sisters stats, and they lack the AoF and SoF rules (plus, I enjoy that sisters are different from marines). I'm not sure how you'd justify it fluff-wise, but you can always do whatever you like with the models.

 

Personally, I think they look more like feudal/death worlders, perhaps even Fenresian PDF :D (though i don't know if they already have an established aesthetic).

[foxlight713]

the kickstarter after this one for that company is suppose to be a the "paladin" sisters which would fit in better to a SoB army.

[Brother Sefiel]

Greetings

 Would power-armored Sisters with S4 / T4 using Space Wolf rules as a small addition to a Ministorum list be stretching the fluff a bit too much?

They're your toys; whatever you do with them is right.

As long as they have significant differences from the models you use for normal sisters I would hope that no one has a problem with it in terms of playing games.

[CrimsonReign]

id be careful buying models based on their 3d renders 

other than that, they could work - if you like them then thats all that matters imo

[Servant of Dante]

Yeah don't get me wrong, I'd never turn someone down for a game for using proxies like this, just don't think I'd use them myself.

[Jack Burton]

Thanks for the input guys; pretty good variety of advice so far. 

 

Today Shieldwolf updated their kickstarter to include their 'Paladin' faction: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1273312680/war-is-coming-warmaidens-and-dragonbreds/posts/1997837
 

I've backed a couple miniatures kickstarters before based on 3D renders and have been really happy with the results, though admittedly none were from Shieldwolf.  It's just...how long can one go without plastic Sisters from GW before the eye starts to stray?

 

The girls here are almost dead-on Sisters of Battle, and I'm actually REALLY impressed with their not-Exorcist.  Maybe I'll just back for two of those :P

[Urriak Urruk]

Thanks for the input guys; pretty good variety of advice so far. 

 

Today Shieldwolf updated their kickstarter to include their 'Paladin' faction: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1273312680/war-is-coming-warmaidens-and-dragonbreds/posts/1997837

 

I've backed a couple miniatures kickstarters before based on 3D renders and have been really happy with the results, though admittedly none were from Shieldwolf.  It's just...how long can one go without plastic Sisters from GW before the eye starts to stray?

 

The girls here are almost dead-on Sisters of Battle, and I'm actually REALLY impressed with their not-Exorcist.  Maybe I'll just back for two of those

 

The paladin ones are 100% useable unless you're playing against someone yelling "ONLY GW COUNTS!"

 

The wolf ones... it doesn't really make much fluff sense, but I would like to see you try because I like the concept. Saying a troop of Sisters was stuck in a campaign alongside Space Wolves for a long time and adopted some traditions. Obviously not too believable but as long as you keep them to normal SoB rules I doubt anyone will challenge it.

 

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15993346/images/1313792665011.jpg

[Jack Burton]

Okay, now that is the kind of artwork I want to see turned into a miniatures line.  Is that too much to ask? :P

[Servant of Dante]

Yeah the preacher I could see being used as an Immolator with that flamer turret, it looks really neat.

[Urriak Urruk]

Okay, now that is the kind of artwork I want to see turned into a miniatures line.  Is that too much to ask?

 

By GW? Yes. Asking them for new SoB's in general appears too much for them!

[Fhanados]

I think either option is perfectly fine really, as long as the model can fairly accurately represent what it's supposed to be.

 

I quite like these lady-wolves, but the shoulder pads seem a bit off to me. Looks like they're sitting on top of the armour rather than being a part of it. Could just be the 3D image though. I'd like to see what they look like in the flesh.

[Hertz]

I think either option is perfectly fine really, as long as the model can fairly accurately represent what it's supposed to be.

 

I quite like these lady-wolves, but the shoulder pads seem a bit off to me. Looks like they're sitting on top of the armour rather than being a part of it. Could just be the 3D image though. I'd like to see what they look like in the flesh.

 

They said that the intention is that you could just leave the shoulderpads off if you wanted. Personally I would just replace them with something else, when I got them and tried them on.

 

I am hoping for the not-sisters of Battle, mostly. Might even go for the fantasy version, and just get some backpacks and guns from elsewhere to sci-fi them up again. Just those cool cloaks would make it worth it! Especially if the sculpting of the hands holding the guns  wont change (But they did say they are looking at it)

And at almost just a dollar per miniature... 

 

3D view of fantasy version: https://sketchfab.com/models/dd33cc3bb1764cf6afbc453e6a1df6c0

[Mileposter]

This is tempting. I've never played Sisters before myself, but with affordable close-enoughs to use as a base, it looks like these could easily be converted over. Little work on some backpacks and shoulder, and yeah, these look like they'd make a good bit of the army. And at a bargani.

 

Teeeeeempting... May consider it!

[DanPesci]

Ive wanted to had sisters alongside my wolves since the 'wolf and sister' webcomic that used to kick around...and i always liked sisters of battle.

 

 

Use them as Fenris PDF, and using sisters rules.

 

Sisters for me sit inbetween standard guard and marines in terms of training/ability anyway. This would make sense still for a super-well-trained-but-not-quite-astartes defence force based on a death world IMO

 

also...

 

Acts of Faith = Acts of Fenris, where instead of faith in the emperor they are empowered by the great fenrisian spirit (or whatever it was magnus was trying to destroy the last time he decided to take a holiday to Fenris)

 

You don't even need to change the abbreviation

 

Id want to see more of the model selection before backing..but looks like it could be interesting for sure. (and certainly cheaper than trying to build a sisters army these days!)

Edited September 26, 2017 by DanPesci

[Fhanados]

 

3D view of fantasy version: https://sketchfab.com/models/dd33cc3bb1764cf6afbc453e6a1df6c0

 

 

 

Wow that's pretty cool. I might grab some of those to try and get my wife into AoS :)

[Jack Burton]

So I'm backing this, thinking that even if the Sisters of Faith don't get funded then the Sisters of Wolves and fantasy minis are worth it anyway.  That said, their Sisters of Faith ARE the plastic Sisters we're looking for.  Of all the third party 'not-Sisters' I've seen, they're the closest to GW-canon Sisters of Battle yet.  And that tank...I need it, precious...

[Servant of Dante]

The Grishnak ones are closer I'd think. They're so close I'm surprised they haven't been sued (might help that they're a small time operation out of Russia :D )

[Mileposter]

Looks like the Sisters of Faith have been funded, just not the double-sized boxes. From what I'm reading, anyway. Their stretch goals layouts in the images are a little ... awkward to read.

[Mileposter]

... Alright, I've found myself staring at the kickstarter for most of the day.

 

This has me seriously considering starting a Sister of Battle army. However, given the state of other units in the Index, and the imminence of a Codex on the horizon (how far on the horizon or whether it'll be standalone or grouped with others is unknown, but still), I'm... hesitant. Are Sisters worth the effort?

[Jack Burton]

Well, I've been playing Sisters since 3rd edition and it depends on what you mean by 'worth it'.  As far as the basic army composition goes, power armor and BS4 (BS3+, whatever) bolters in a cheap package hasn't let me down yet.  

 

I've heard Sisters are a solid ally for an Imperium force as well, though I play them as my main.  For this price, this may be the best shot we have at plastic sisters for a while, since plastic sisters at GW seem to go over about as well as a fart in an elevator.

 

PS though if you do plan to get some girls, then also plan on getting ahold of Celestine pretty shortly.  She's the closest thing to an auto-include that there is in the Ministorum now.

[utilityzero]

I think you should just use them as sisters and say their convent is on a feral world, built there to honor a martyr of the Imperium. Over the centuries of their involvement with the local population they have gone native. The munitorum often coopts local traditions and symbols, merging them with the greater body of the Imperial faith, just as the Catholic church it's modelled after did in real life. There is no reason at all they couldn't evolve their own distinct visual styles and motifs. It makes absolute sense in 40k.

[Servant of Dante]

The counter argument, again, is that Orders don't train their own recruits, they are all trained on Ophelia or Terra, so imo it would be difficult to explain an Order with such vast divergences from the baseline.

[Urriak Urruk]

... Alright, I've found myself staring at the kickstarter for most of the day.

 

This has me seriously considering starting a Sister of Battle army. However, given the state of other units in the Index, and the imminence of a Codex on the horizon (how far on the horizon or whether it'll be standalone or grouped with others is unknown, but still), I'm... hesitant. Are Sisters worth the effort?

 

When the Codex comes out it could be interesting, what with most of the Codexes (SM, CM, AM, IG) getting rules specific to Chapters, Legions, Forge Worlds or Regiments. It would be great if each of the SoB Orders got specific rules too. Hopefully GW just mans up and releases the whole range in plastic though, now's the time to do it.

 

[Jack Burton]

Yeah well on the other hand I've been hearing "Now's the time to do plastic Sisters" and "Plastic Sisters in the pipe for GW next year!" since 2007.  This has got to be a pretty sore spot for most Sisters players.