Mordians, fall in! (also, Russ Buff confirmed)

[gunnyogrady]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/26/regiment-focus-mordian-sep26gw-homepage-post-2/

 

There it is! Discussion to follow.

 

EDIT: summary

 

Mordian Infantry get +1 LD and +1 to hit in Overwatch if all models in a unit are in base contact with at least one other model from the same unit; Mordian Vehicles get +1 to hit in Overwatch if within 3" of another Mordian Vehicle.

 

Mordian Order allows a unit to target Characters with Rapid Fire weapons, even if they are not the closest unit.

 

New Astra Militarum Stratagem allows Vehicles to hit on a 5 and 6 in Overwatch for 1 CP.

 

Russes get a points reduction of unknown amount, and if they move half their available move distance they get to fire their turret weapon twice (must be at same target). Turret still fires Heavy Weapons at full BS even if it moves. #Awesome #Blessed

Edited September 26, 2017 by gunnyogrady

[Tyr13]

The tactics are kind of iffy, but the order... the order could be seriously deadly. Keep in mind, its *all* rapid fire weapons. That includes plasma. Firing 4 plasma guns at a character... that could do some serious damage.

[Halfpint100]

Russes can now fire twice if they move half! Now they may be worth it. 49 shots from a punisher anyone??????

 

Also mordians have some lethal orders. being able to pop characters with rapid fire weapons is so useful! 

Vehicles also get +1 to overwatch if within 3" of another vehicle. Oh and strageem with lets you hit on a 5 or a 6 with overwatch. combined.... this lets you hit on a 4+ for overwatch! If you do this on a malcador defender, you overwatch on a 3+ with it (it gets +1 to overwatch anyway)..........

 

I am very excited about other regiments now!

[Cap'm Heckus]

Golly. That change to Girding Advance just put the Leman Russ back on the table. Firing the main gun twice if you move under half? Yippee.

[Thoridon]

Grinding Advance is a much needed boost for the Russ. I can see it being very strong on the longer range weapons (yay for the basic Battle Tank), a little less for the shorter ranged Demolisher, but even with that you can advance to a choke point or objective and then hold position the rest of the battle for those double shots.

 

I like the Mordian doctrine too, it fits how I see my mixed Praetorian/Mordian detachment playing. Form ranks, hold firm, spam the 'first rank fire...' lasgun order. That new order will be useful too if a character is in line of sight but not the closest.

 

Yesterday made be very happy for my Catachans, today made me happy for my Mordian/Praetorian units and Leman Russ all-round.

[NatBrannigan]

So so happy the tactic only works with ranked up infantry, slightly disappointed it's not a straight +1 to hit.

 

Leman Russ ranks firing twice? Ouch!!!

[Time of madness]

So a unit of 10 infantry have to be lined up with bases touching to use the new rules?

[gunnyogrady]

Each model has to touch at least one other model from the same unit.

[Tirak]

The Strategem isn't Mordian only, it's Astra Militarum.

[gunnyogrady]

Thank you, edited the summary.

[micahwc]

They don't have to be lined up, just touching.

[lash144]

How to you interpret the new Russ rule: Can I already shoot twice in the second turn?

[Tirak]

How to you interpret the new Russ rule: Can I already shoot twice in the second turn?

It's pretty simple. If you move less than half your movement, you can fire the main gun on a Leman Russ at the same target twice.

[micahwc]

The worst part about this new codex is not going out and buying a bunch of cadians, because I want to see what every regiment gets. That and the fact that there really is only one regiment that is easy to buy.

[gunnyogrady]

I feel like the Mordian specific rules are fluffy, and encourage a specific style of play (obviously static gunline), by incentivizing the guard player to be a little more okay taking charges and casualties. Definitely true to fluff.

 

Overall, I'm not sure the Mordian Regimental Doctrine is stronger than the Catachan one, but that order certainly is dy-no-mite! Pure nastiness with plasma.

[lash144]

Edit: pls delete

Edited September 26, 2017 by lash144

[Ranulf]

Grinding Advance and Defensive Gunners?

 

The Russ is back baby. Lock and load those Battle Cannons. 

[OnboardG1]

Hmm, I'm now wondering what historicals might represent mordians really well. I was looking fro 19th.c prussians but there aren't any plastics that I could find.

 

That said it would be fun to play Praetorians using the mordian rules and these chaps:

 

https://www.perry-miniatures.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_62&products_id=3454&osCsid=ba7rmftp37n4roh4bqb6rjt5b3

 

https://www.perry-miniatures.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_62&products_id=3643&osCsid=ba7rmftp37n4roh4bqb6rjt5b3

 

Then again I might just build a tank company to support my steel legion.

Edited September 26, 2017 by OnboardG1

[Ranulf]

Hmm, I'm now wondering what historicals might represent mordians really well. I was looking fro 19th.c prussians but there aren't any plastics that I could find.

 

That said it would be fun to play Praetorians using the mordian rules and these chaps:

 

https://www.perry-miniatures.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_62&products_id=3454&osCsid=ba7rmftp37n4roh4bqb6rjt5b3

 

Most 28mm Historical lines are 'normal' scale compared to GW's 'heroic' scale, which means they're considerably smaller. Victoria Lamb (Victorian Miniatures) does awesome Praetorian's (and Mordians) in a scale that matches GW. 

[OnboardG1]

 

Hmm, I'm now wondering what historicals might represent mordians really well. I was looking fro 19th.c prussians but there aren't any plastics that I could find.

 

That said it would be fun to play Praetorians using the mordian rules and these chaps:

 

https://www.perry-miniatures.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_62&products_id=3454&osCsid=ba7rmftp37n4roh4bqb6rjt5b3

 

Most 28mm Historical lines are 'normal' scale compared to GW's 'heroic' scale, which means they're considerably smaller. Victoria Lamb (Victorian Miniatures) does awesome Praetorian's (and Mordians) in a scale that matches GW. 

 

 

£30 for 10 though... I'm not sure I want to pay even more than Gdub

[Ranulf]

 

 

Hmm, I'm now wondering what historicals might represent mordians really well. I was looking fro 19th.c prussians but there aren't any plastics that I could find.

 

That said it would be fun to play Praetorians using the mordian rules and these chaps:

 

https://www.perry-miniatures.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_62&products_id=3454&osCsid=ba7rmftp37n4roh4bqb6rjt5b3

 

Most 28mm Historical lines are 'normal' scale compared to GW's 'heroic' scale, which means they're considerably smaller. Victoria Lamb (Victorian Miniatures) does awesome Praetorian's (and Mordians) in a scale that matches GW. 

 

 

£30 for 10 though... I'm not sure I want to pay even more than Gdub

 

 

True that.

 

That said the recent GW kitbash: https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/PreviewSep14-Boxout3krc.jpg shows how you can paint standard Cadians in dress uniforms. If you're willing to have your Mordians/Praetorian's wear flak armour, a simple head swap such as these could get you there.

 

https://victoriaminiatures.com/collections/heads/products/pith-helmet-heads-2

 

https://victoriaminiatures.com/collections/heads/products/dress-cap-heads-1

[Guardsman Bob]

Sooooo they said something about Mordian plasma gunners becoming really deadly... only GW never released a metal Mordian with plasma. Each of the original 2nd edition lines only had three special weapons. For Mordians it was Grenade Launchers, Flamers, and Meltaguns.

 

Curious indeed.

[Tirak]

Well they said that because the order only affects Rapid Fire weapons. What's the most powerful infantry Rapid Fire weapon we have? Plasma.

[Vel'Cona]

Holy crap.  

 

Catachan LR just went next level.

 

The Mordians seem fine, but it's a reactive rather than proactive set of Abilities and that isn't optimal IMO.  The fact that their models are ridiculously hard to get at this point is annoying, too.  Not saying they're BAD, but I prefer aggressive rather than defensive strategies (yes, even by Guard standards).

[Jolemai]

Like what I'm seeing there too. Really enjoying these leaks so far.