micahwc Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Just looked at some of these guys. It's like 230 points for 20 wounds at T10, 10 fire points, can hold a unit of up to 20 models and any number of infantry characters. I'm thinking a unit of 10 Havoks with 4 missile launchers, or a unit of 20 Noise Marines could be fun. Anyone used these? Thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339848-any-thoughts-on-the-best-unit-to-stuff-into-a-chaos-bastion/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozo69pd Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Vehicles in 8th can hold any number of units. If that is also the case with buildings, I would say put 4 units of lascannon havoks into the building, then pray to God it doesn't get exploded turn 1. Noise marines do not have enough range to be viable. You would need at least 48" range to be useful because the opponent is going to hide lots of units from that side of the table. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339848-any-thoughts-on-the-best-unit-to-stuff-into-a-chaos-bastion/#findComment-4896314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azekai Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Vehicles in 8th can hold any number of units. If that is also the case with buildings, I would say put 4 units of lascannon havoks into the building, then pray to God it doesn't get exploded turn 1. Noise marines do not have enough range to be viable. You would need at least 48" range to be useful because the opponent is going to hide lots of units from that side of the table. I agree with most of what you said, except the 'hope it doesn't die T1' bit. A toughness 10, 20 wound model will eat a lot of lascannon shots- approximately 20 or so. I don't know about the meta you guys play in, but I rarely see that kind of firepower in my games. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339848-any-thoughts-on-the-best-unit-to-stuff-into-a-chaos-bastion/#findComment-4896709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Are Verlo Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Unfortunately the bastion can contain 1 unit and any number of characters, up to a total of 20 models. So havoks with range 48" would be a good choice Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339848-any-thoughts-on-the-best-unit-to-stuff-into-a-chaos-bastion/#findComment-4896715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
micahwc Posted September 27, 2017 Author Share Posted September 27, 2017 So just 4 havoks with missile/lascannons? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339848-any-thoughts-on-the-best-unit-to-stuff-into-a-chaos-bastion/#findComment-4897151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozo69pd Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Vehicles in 8th can hold any number of units. If that is also the case with buildings, I would say put 4 units of lascannon havoks into the building, then pray to God it doesn't get exploded turn 1. Noise marines do not have enough range to be viable. You would need at least 48" range to be useful because the opponent is going to hide lots of units from that side of the table. I agree with most of what you said, except the 'hope it doesn't die T1' bit. A toughness 10, 20 wound model will eat a lot of lascannon shots- approximately 20 or so. I don't know about the meta you guys play in, but I rarely see that kind of firepower in my games. Aeldari and SM (especially the chapter that gains bonuses against buildings) can and will deep strike an insane number of heatlances/melta. If I ever bring a renegade knight I usually count on it dying turn 1 or 2. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339848-any-thoughts-on-the-best-unit-to-stuff-into-a-chaos-bastion/#findComment-4897214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azekai Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Vehicles in 8th can hold any number of units. If that is also the case with buildings, I would say put 4 units of lascannon havoks into the building, then pray to God it doesn't get exploded turn 1. Noise marines do not have enough range to be viable. You would need at least 48" range to be useful because the opponent is going to hide lots of units from that side of the table. I agree with most of what you said, except the 'hope it doesn't die T1' bit. A toughness 10, 20 wound model will eat a lot of lascannon shots- approximately 20 or so. I don't know about the meta you guys play in, but I rarely see that kind of firepower in my games. Aeldari and SM (especially the chapter that gains bonuses against buildings) can and will deep strike an insane number of heatlances/melta. If I ever bring a renegade knight I usually count on it dying turn 1 or 2. Sounds like you aren't screening your stuff then, because deepstrikers should not be getting that close to your giant pointsinks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339848-any-thoughts-on-the-best-unit-to-stuff-into-a-chaos-bastion/#findComment-4897599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hushrong Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Noise Marines with sonic weaponry. Sonic blasters have three shots, great range, and ignore cover. Blastmasters are even better. That would be my vote aside from havocs. Kierdale and bozo69pd 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339848-any-thoughts-on-the-best-unit-to-stuff-into-a-chaos-bastion/#findComment-4897601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillin Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 (edited) I would say a unit of havocs w 4 ML,if you don't know who you are playing against. 4 LC if you know you are playing against some cheese ball who's army consist of 3 knights,or something like that. But really, idk if bastion is the best use of points. Edited September 28, 2017 by chillin Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339848-any-thoughts-on-the-best-unit-to-stuff-into-a-chaos-bastion/#findComment-4897669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozo69pd Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Vehicles in 8th can hold any number of units. If that is also the case with buildings, I would say put 4 units of lascannon havoks into the building, then pray to God it doesn't get exploded turn 1. Noise marines do not have enough range to be viable. You would need at least 48" range to be useful because the opponent is going to hide lots of units from that side of the table. I agree with most of what you said, except the 'hope it doesn't die T1' bit. A toughness 10, 20 wound model will eat a lot of lascannon shots- approximately 20 or so. I don't know about the meta you guys play in, but I rarely see that kind of firepower in my games. Aeldari and SM (especially the chapter that gains bonuses against buildings) can and will deep strike an insane number of heatlances/melta. If I ever bring a renegade knight I usually count on it dying turn 1 or 2. Sounds like you aren't screening your stuff then, because deepstrikers should not be getting that close to your giant pointsinks. With the knight I definitely tend to get a little too aggressive in the first 2 turns and it costs me. For my bastion it is a conversion I made that is extra huge and looks like a castle. Great thematically, but unfortunately makes it so big it is impossible to bubble wrap it 360 degrees lol. Good point for anyone using a single bastion though! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339848-any-thoughts-on-the-best-unit-to-stuff-into-a-chaos-bastion/#findComment-4897960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdemayo Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 (edited) Yeah. If you want to make maximal use of its 10 man firing ports, Noise Marines are the way to go. They might be short ranged, but that bastion would make a hell of a deployment zone protector. Put it in the middle, and you coud Blaster almost the whole backfield. Otherwise, a 5 man Havok squad. Everybody needs lascannons. Plasma would be hilarious too. What about Obliterators? Or cultists? Edited September 28, 2017 by tdemayo Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339848-any-thoughts-on-the-best-unit-to-stuff-into-a-chaos-bastion/#findComment-4898167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Noise Marines are great but I'd probably put two units of Havocs in instead. One with Lascannons and one with Heavy Bolter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339848-any-thoughts-on-the-best-unit-to-stuff-into-a-chaos-bastion/#findComment-4898224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Skull Mask Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 (edited) Noise Marines are great but I'd probably put two units of Havocs in instead. One with Lascannons and one with Heavy Bolter. As mentioned above, a Bastion can only hold 1 unit and any number of characters up to a total of ten models. I'd put in some havocs with rocket launchers and maybe a lord for rerolls. If you are afraid of incoming fire, put a void shield behind it and it should be able to take a lot of heat. Edited September 28, 2017 by Iron Skull Mask Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339848-any-thoughts-on-the-best-unit-to-stuff-into-a-chaos-bastion/#findComment-4898278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hushrong Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 As mentioned above you can Noise Marines are great but I'd probably put two units of Havocs in instead. One with Lascannons and one with Heavy Bolter. As mentioned above, a Bastion can only hold 1 unit and any number of characters up to a total of ten models. I'd put in some havocs with rocket launchers and maybe a lord for rerolls. If you are afraid of incoming fire, put a void shield behind it and it should be able to take a lot of heat. When working on fortification always take an Iron Warrior's advice I do find it a bummer you cannot stuff two units in there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339848-any-thoughts-on-the-best-unit-to-stuff-into-a-chaos-bastion/#findComment-4898295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Skull Mask Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Yeah, it definitely would be nice to be able to put two units in there. Probably someone thought that might be too much - that most likely was not an Iron Warrior, though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339848-any-thoughts-on-the-best-unit-to-stuff-into-a-chaos-bastion/#findComment-4898305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 The Lord's reroll aura wouldn't work, though? He's not present on the table. bozo69pd 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339848-any-thoughts-on-the-best-unit-to-stuff-into-a-chaos-bastion/#findComment-4898394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Ah right, only one unit. Then definitely either ML Havocs or Noise Marines with two Blastmaster. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/339848-any-thoughts-on-the-best-unit-to-stuff-into-a-chaos-bastion/#findComment-4898502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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