Demoulius Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Hey all, Im looking to do a hobby challenge at my local GW soon and im contemplating Cataphracti terminators. I got into a conversation about them and a buddy of mine said that the Blood Angels have hardly any terminator suits left. Apparently the space hulk novel mentioned that the chapter has some 40 suits of armour, aside from 4 all are Indomitus pattern? Now I wouldnt let some lore stop me but is this even true? He has a disorder where he has trouble reading (dont know the english word, sorry) so I tend to take things he says about what he read with a grain of salt anyway And last question I guess, what load out for them? Their slow speed makes them undiserable for assaults but that good invul save DOES make them deserable for assaults... A mix of weapons would be the best bet I guess but I feel that then im missing a punch in close combat anyone got any suggestions for load outs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremon Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 They are incredibly slow; I would give them stormbolters so they can double tap before they fail a charge after deep striking. I’m also a big fan of power fists, which seem reasonably priced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
our_baz Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 They are incredibly slow; I would give them stormbolters so they can double tap before they fail a charge after deep striking. I’m also a big fan of power fists, which seem reasonably priced. That load out makes sense, only downside is at the moment you can't take Cataphracti Termies in a BA army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demoulius Posted September 28, 2017 Author Share Posted September 28, 2017 They are incredibly slow; I would give them stormbolters so they can double tap before they fail a charge after deep striking. I’m also a big fan of power fists, which seem reasonably priced. That load out makes sense, only downside is at the moment you can't take Cataphracti Termies in a BA army. Wait a minute, you cant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
our_baz Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Sorry to bear the bad news, see page 89 Index Imperium1 for valid BA unit choices. But if you are using them for 30K go crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demoulius Posted September 28, 2017 Author Share Posted September 28, 2017 What in the world? We are one of the 1st founding chapters yet we dont have acces to suits of armour that were around during the great crusade. Yet unnamed chapter #5234 which has been around for 5 minutes CAN? this.... Quixus and librisrouge 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 It's been like it since they were introduced and hopefully it will be addressed in the Codex. In the meantime, run them as regular Terminators :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
our_baz Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 (edited) We're not the only 1st founder chapters that can't take, neither can the wolves or DA. With any luck this will change if / when our Codex arrives Edit: Ninja'd Edited September 28, 2017 by our_baz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demoulius Posted September 28, 2017 Author Share Posted September 28, 2017 Well if some of the other 1st founding chapters cant take it that makes it less terrible. But I still think its silly! Running them as normal terminators is not a bad idea actually. I can still use them then, just not their rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonaides Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 For bonus fluff bunny points paint one up as ultramarine but put a blood angels shoulder/chapter marking on it. Old old story we found a suit and needed to put it to use / havent got round to returning it yet but every time it gets overpainted to our colours the marine wearing the suit dies messily so they keep it in blue. Demoulius and our_baz 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Never heard that one before. What's the source please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Not a specific one I think, but there is general lore that painting over the chapter icon is bad luck for a suit of armour, hence why Deathwatch keep their chapter pad etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Never heard that one before. What's the source please? Not sure about the original source but it was reprinted in the 40K Compendium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 I was told by the lead designer of 8th ed 40k at Warhammerfest that BA/ DA/ SW will be getting access to them. Didn't come to pass in the index but let's hope the codex sorts it out. It's a no brainier really as it'll only sell them more kits. Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonaides Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 it was old fluff already in second edition i believe so probably dates to around the release of the first metal terminator boxed set or around WD 109 / 1989? Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 I was told by the lead designer of 8th ed 40k at Warhammerfest that BA/ DA/ SW will be getting access to them.I really hope we get access to other flyers like the Storm Talon. Quixus 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Not a specific one I think, but there is general lore that painting over the chapter icon is bad luck for a suit of armour, hence why Deathwatch keep their chapter pad etc. That's pretty much the opposite of what he described. He said to keep the armor color and switchout the chapter pad. ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM1981 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 For bonus fluff bunny points paint one up as ultramarine but put a blood angels shoulder/chapter marking on it. Old old story we found a suit and needed to put it to use / havent got round to returning it yet but every time it gets overpainted to our colours the marine wearing the suit dies messily so they keep it in blue. That's old lore from the RT era. I have the story in an old WD somewhere. Will try to dig it out for you. SGK 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM1981 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Xenith, hushrong, Demoulius and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonaides Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Thats the one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demoulius Posted September 29, 2017 Author Share Posted September 29, 2017 Thats actually quite a lovely story and a nice little humurous bit of lore ^_^ I love that in 40k marines have this superstition and things like the marine spirit are so poorly understood, yet theres also a bit of truth behind the stories because many weapons/armors and pieces of tech actually HAVE machine spirits in them which can be quite tempermental. The best example of that beeing the spirits in the Titans. Such as warhounds beeing incredibly predatory and agressive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Faith powers a lot of stuff in the 40k universe, in which we have a warp storm where emotions become reality. Ork tech largely works because they have the overwhelming belief that it will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Faith powers a lot of stuff in the 40k universe, in which we have a warp storm where emotions become reality. Ork tech largely works because they have the overwhelming belief that it will. Off topic and I can't remember EXACTLY how it goes but it turns out that's not actually the case. It's one theory that an imperial scholar had that got popularized, based upon him underestimating the Orks and thinking the only explanation for their crappy tech is some kind of otherworldly force. It's hinted in much more recent fluff that the Orks know exactly what they are doing, it's just ramshackle because it can be. And that is TERRIFYING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanPesci Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 In a similar boat, i have a tartaros squad paiting up in wolves colours (as I picked up BoP for that sweet mark III). I'll just be using as regular TDA for now. Only reason i can see that Cataphracti/tartaros was in the index in the first place was so that you had rules for them if you'd bought the calth/BoP box game. It wouldnt actually surprise me that much if GW skipped over them in the new angels/wolves dex's....obvs id prefer them not to but i doubt its that high on their concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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