Greenz Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Sorry if this is the wrong forum, didn’t really know where else to post this So I’ve started up a dark mech themed IG army. Ive done up a number of infantry, and now I’m looking at how to approach the tanks. I don’t want to use standard, out of the box Russ and chimera tanks, I really want something darker. Whenever I’m looking for inspiration, I find myself wanting tanks with legs. Problem is, the rules are so different between walkers and tanks So my question to the community is, how would you feel playing against an army where the “tanks” are walkers, but obviously using tank rules? Would this be fine, or am I treading on rocky ground here? Brother Lunkhead 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340151-thoughts-on-%E2%80%9Cwalking%E2%80%9D-tanks/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 So long as it's clear what they are and you can't confuse genuine walker unit types with your modified tanks, then it should be okay for casual games, if you let your opponent know what's supposed to be what. :) graysparrow and Greenz 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340151-thoughts-on-%E2%80%9Cwalking%E2%80%9D-tanks/#findComment-4904124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ammonius Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Go for shorter legs (like say a millipede's) that let you have a walker without looking like it would be able to step over walls, etc. Good luck! graysparrow and Greenz 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340151-thoughts-on-%E2%80%9Cwalking%E2%80%9D-tanks/#findComment-4904127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenz Posted October 6, 2017 Author Share Posted October 6, 2017 That’s awesome, thanks for the replies! My gaming group has kinda disbanded lately, and I’ve been away from playing at shops for so long I have no idea what’s acceptable like that Ammonius, great advice on the shorter legs, that never crossed my mind. Thanks again! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340151-thoughts-on-%E2%80%9Cwalking%E2%80%9D-tanks/#findComment-4904173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
graysparrow Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Please post some pictures once you start converting, I always love seeing more walkers! (must be the battletech fan in me. :) ) *digs through massive list of internet bookmarks* Ahhh, here we go! Cypher871, Heresy-Online, 0251011.M03. Step by step conversion guide (with pictures!) on a very nicely done predator walker. Greenz, Olis and Brother Lunkhead 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340151-thoughts-on-%E2%80%9Cwalking%E2%80%9D-tanks/#findComment-4904218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Have a look at the Star Wars prequels. Most of their tanks walk, but still look similar to a tank. Greenz 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340151-thoughts-on-%E2%80%9Cwalking%E2%80%9D-tanks/#findComment-4904253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonReign Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 try and keep them the same footprint + height and i wouldn't have an issue - it would only be a deal with line of sight etc if your leman russ was able to see over all of the terrain because of its defiler legs :P Greenz 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340151-thoughts-on-%E2%80%9Cwalking%E2%80%9D-tanks/#findComment-4904597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffersonian000 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 We use to use Leman Russ rules to represent Knights back in 2nd Ed, and build our “Knights” with the same general foot print as the tank. So there’s community history in support of the idea. Also, Defilers and Onagers are walking tanks, which can be used to work out how your walking tanks might look. SJ Greenz 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340151-thoughts-on-%E2%80%9Cwalking%E2%80%9D-tanks/#findComment-4905829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristoff Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 I don't know where you'd get the bits, but you may also want to look at Dust Tactics for inspiration as well. It is a weird war 2 type of game with a lot of walkers taking the place of the Shermans and Panzers of the age. Heck, their bits may even fit, as I think the scale is close enough to work with 40K. Greenz 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340151-thoughts-on-%E2%80%9Cwalking%E2%80%9D-tanks/#findComment-4906119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenz Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 Thanks for all the feedback guys! It’s reassuring to know the spirit of the game is still there. I fondly remember the days of 2nd edition with cardboard land raiders and deodorant bottle land speeders Graysparrow, thanks for that link, that’s a great read Currently I’m looking at the Onager legs for hellhounds, and defiler legs for the russes. Though I feel I’ll need to heavily modify the defiler legs to keep the dimensions right and to maintain a cumbersome appearance. I’ll be firing up a thread in the WIP forum sometime soon, so I’ll definitely have progress pics there Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340151-thoughts-on-%E2%80%9Cwalking%E2%80%9D-tanks/#findComment-4906637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Raeven Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 (edited) Post some pictures when you get to work. Knowing your skills with converting and GS, the results should be spectacular. Edited October 11, 2017 by GreyRavenC Greenz 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340151-thoughts-on-%E2%80%9Cwalking%E2%80%9D-tanks/#findComment-4906651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
appiah4 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 (edited) I would suggest checking out some of the Caprice forces from Heavy Gear for inspiration. Edited October 12, 2017 by appiah5 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340151-thoughts-on-%E2%80%9Cwalking%E2%80%9D-tanks/#findComment-4907137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffersonian000 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 I recommend going with 6 legs for your Tanks, to differentiate them from the 4 legged Walkers. SJ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340151-thoughts-on-%E2%80%9Cwalking%E2%80%9D-tanks/#findComment-4907842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
appiah4 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Here is a great shots of the Heavy Gear / Caprice 'mounts' I mentioned above, for inspiration: http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/DP9_Heavy_Gear_Caprice_Army_Preview_2.jpg Stoic Raptor 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340151-thoughts-on-%E2%80%9Cwalking%E2%80%9D-tanks/#findComment-4907965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandwen Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Another place for ideas/conversion fodder would be Warlord Games konflict '47. They made some ww2-esque walkers. Stoic Raptor 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340151-thoughts-on-%E2%80%9Cwalking%E2%80%9D-tanks/#findComment-4907967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuvassin Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 ...or am I treading on rocky ground here? I see what you did there. More seriously, as long as it's consistent most opponents should be too put out by it. I guess the only concern might be to make sure they can't be confused for something else, like a Defiler (even when using a completely different codex). Greenz 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340151-thoughts-on-%E2%80%9Cwalking%E2%80%9D-tanks/#findComment-4908191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenz Posted October 13, 2017 Author Share Posted October 13, 2017 Thanks for the vote of confidence GRC! I’m missing you guys in the DA forum, but this project has totally taken over @Zuvassin: haha I totally forgot about that joke @Appiah and Shandwen: I’m really digging those legs, especially the Konflict German Panzermech ones So after trolling through bits stores and 3rd party companies the last few days, it’s looking like I’ll probably be going the scratch built route. I’m aiming for 8 legs, going for the whole arachnid approach. Thanks again for all the input. I started this thread just to get a feel for what’s acceptable, and you guys are throwing me some truly awesome ideas! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340151-thoughts-on-%E2%80%9Cwalking%E2%80%9D-tanks/#findComment-4908281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonReign Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 oooh you must post pics as you go if you're going the scratchbuild route ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340151-thoughts-on-%E2%80%9Cwalking%E2%80%9D-tanks/#findComment-4909876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 I didn't think there were differences in rules between walkers and tanks now? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340151-thoughts-on-%E2%80%9Cwalking%E2%80%9D-tanks/#findComment-4910192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonReign Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 I didn't think there were differences in rules between walkers and tanks now? indeed there are not - but adding walker legs to a leman russ and using it as a leman russ wouldnt have conferred walker rules in 7th ed either Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340151-thoughts-on-%E2%80%9Cwalking%E2%80%9D-tanks/#findComment-4910760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 I didn't think there were differences in rules between walkers and tanks now? indeed there are not - but adding walker legs to a leman russ and using it as a leman russ wouldnt have conferred walker rules in 7th ed either I don't get your point. OP was worried about adding legs to a tank "because walker rules were so different". I'm pointing out that they are no differences. I don't see what 7th has to do with anything? Greenz 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340151-thoughts-on-%E2%80%9Cwalking%E2%80%9D-tanks/#findComment-4910947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonReign Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 I didn't think there were differences in rules between walkers and tanks now?indeed there are not - but adding walker legs to a leman russ and using it as a leman russ wouldnt have conferred walker rules in 7th ed either I don't get your point. OP was worried about adding legs to a tank "because walker rules were so different". I'm pointing out that they are no differences. I don't see what 7th has to do with anything? yeah thats me not reading the op fully... i was trying to say that customising the appearance of a model doesn't change its rules Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340151-thoughts-on-%E2%80%9Cwalking%E2%80%9D-tanks/#findComment-4911009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenz Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 Yea it’s partially my fault guys, I’m still very unfamiliar with a lot of the new 8th edition rules. Between having kids, and my group falling apart, I haven’t played a game since early 7th. I hadn’t seen anything in this rule book about differences between walkers and tanks, but I assumed the datasheets covered those differences If there really isn’t a difference this edition, then that makes things even better! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340151-thoughts-on-%E2%80%9Cwalking%E2%80%9D-tanks/#findComment-4911028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Yup. In 7th ed, whether a tank had legs or not mattered. Now, in 8th, it doesn't, and large models all generally behave the same, whether made of flesh or steel, and with legs or on tracks, or any combination thereof. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340151-thoughts-on-%E2%80%9Cwalking%E2%80%9D-tanks/#findComment-4911453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
appiah4 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 The issue here is that nobody knows what will happen in 9th so it's always a risk, act accordingly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340151-thoughts-on-%E2%80%9Cwalking%E2%80%9D-tanks/#findComment-4911477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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