MyD4rkPassenger Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) So tinkering around with my list I have included a Foul Blightspawn, as the title suggests my question revolves around his revolting stench ability. As one of my regular opponents is a tyranid player, he without fail drops the Swarmlord in a drop pod in my face turn one and charges. Being that I'm planning on fielding Mortarion, I know what he will target everytime we play. So if I have a blightspawn near Mortarion turn one, how exactly does the fight phase play out? Does he still activate a unit to fight with first? Or will I get to activate a unit after his charge before him? Edited October 9, 2017 by MyD4rkPassenger Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340192-foul-blightspawn-anti-charge-question/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomanyprojects Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) I'm not familiar with the Swarmlord, but if he has an ability to fight first in the fight phase, it is that ability which is annulled. which means that the fight phase proceeds exactly as if the ability did not exist, ergo if its his turn and he chooses to fight with the swarmlord first then he can do exactly that Edited October 9, 2017 by Toomanyprojects Halandaar 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340192-foul-blightspawn-anti-charge-question/#findComment-4904795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halandaar Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Player who's turn it is gets first pick as to which non-charging units fight, so he's just going to nominate the Swarmlord anyway. What you can hope is that he also charged with another unit in the same turn, because that would then allow you to use the Counter Offensive stratagem to fight with Mortarion out of sequence. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340192-foul-blightspawn-anti-charge-question/#findComment-4904841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomanyprojects Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 to be honest, I'd say that Mortarion is probably a match for the swarmlord regardless of circumstances, and that if you get to kill the biggest beast in the enemy army without your opponent being able to use the buffs that the swarmlord gives to the majority of his units then its you that would come out on top anyway Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340192-foul-blightspawn-anti-charge-question/#findComment-4904870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyD4rkPassenger Posted October 9, 2017 Author Share Posted October 9, 2017 I appreciate the responses, he does the trygon tunnel assault as well so there is the potential for another charge. My main concern is how weak Mortarion will be after the battle, like you said he will more likely than not win, I just don't want him crippled for the rest of the game. Do you all think a screen of nurglings or poxwalkers in front of him is something worth trying just to put that much more of a dent in his tactic? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340192-foul-blightspawn-anti-charge-question/#findComment-4904900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khar'vros the Crazed Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Maybe summon a herald for healing? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340192-foul-blightspawn-anti-charge-question/#findComment-4904902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeresyBeliever Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 If you play for second turn and block Morty in with poxwalkers for example let him do all that first turn as he wont be able to charge morty. Slothysaur 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340192-foul-blightspawn-anti-charge-question/#findComment-4904968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptix Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Also, the Swarmlord will barely do anything to him through the invuln and DR and then get obliterated with two swings of silence. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340192-foul-blightspawn-anti-charge-question/#findComment-4905296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Which is kinda sad considering the swarmlord isn't just any big monster tbh xD Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340192-foul-blightspawn-anti-charge-question/#findComment-4905403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khar'vros the Crazed Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 (edited) I'd have though ol swarmy could give him a bit of hurtin Edited October 10, 2017 by Khar'vros the Crazed Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340192-foul-blightspawn-anti-charge-question/#findComment-4905692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 He should do on average 5 wounds, assuming full strength and no miasma on mortarion. And then he gets destroyed by evisc. The problem is that all the big nid monsters are all overcosted, they can't get any form of reroll and are almost all t6 with a 3+. Swarm lord in particular has a lot of his budget going to hive Commander Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340192-foul-blightspawn-anti-charge-question/#findComment-4905700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Lord Loki Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 My thought are make sure mortarion has a unit of deathshroud by him as you can allocate wounds to them instead Also consider castling up and overlapping auras. The talleyman will allow rereolls of 1s (i think) as well as hopefully regaining Lords of contagion also have mortal wound effect on models that are not Nurgle alligned The plague surgeon would also boost everyones discusting resiliance making it even harder for The swarm lord to do any damage Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340192-foul-blightspawn-anti-charge-question/#findComment-4906328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Mortarion already gets reroll 1s and the Plague surgeon doesn't add enough to just get him to keep Morty alive. A screen of cultists or poxwalkers are all you need to ensure you don't get charged by swarmlord if you're really that afraid of taking around 5 wounds Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340192-foul-blightspawn-anti-charge-question/#findComment-4906337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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