Authors' own chapters added to canon

[Lucerne]

Weren't the charnel guard in Gaunt's Ghosts?

[Sete]

Well if there are rooms for mentions ya know Grey Talons!

Fuahahhaha.

 

Would be cool to have WD making some competitions to have your chapter mentioned into he fluff. That's the prize in itself to be honest.

Edited October 13, 2017 by Sete

[Conn Eremon]

 

I was bitterly disappointed when I saw that that competition was closed

 

I'm actually sitting here and putting real effort into thinking about this, and I genuinely cannot come up with anything I would value more when it came to my involvement in this hobby than to have had an influence on a canon Chapter (or to have my own legitimised, both would be equally amazing).

 

If I was told I was guaranteed to be able to have such an influence if I could complete an IA or written piece of a suitable quality, I'd probably take time off work, clear my calendar and start tomorrow That says slightly scary things about how much I love and have enjoyed this setting over the decades, but you know, whatever...

 

What's your Chapter called? I have room right now for a mention. Nothing grand, but I can name-check them.

 

 

As someone who very much sympathizes with Drakuur's post, that is seriously super awesome of you. Honestly, just a name-drop is the best way for a DIY to be made canon, in my opinion. That's enough to prove it exists, enough for people to talk about it, but not enough for us to worry that more might be done with it that invalidates our own work. It's one of the reasons why so many of us choose to create entirely new Chapters and avoided even those canon Chapters that are no more than names and colors.

 

Like grailkeeper said, prepare to be bombarded with requests now. I'm trying super hard not to myself, but your offer was specifically to Drakuur.

[Sete]

Hey don't you come here and make us feel bad! :D

 

But seriously, the reason I like BT is because you can have a crusade, and that never interfers or gets invalidated by the lore.

You see Ultramarines, every company has a named captain, for me at least it makes it hard to create my own thing with it.

 

The fact that Templars have such spread out numbers is a plus in my book.

[Phoebus]

 

 

I was bitterly disappointed when I saw that that competition was closed :(

I'm actually sitting here and putting real effort into thinking about this, and I genuinely cannot come up with anything I would value more when it came to my involvement in this hobby than to have had an influence on a canon Chapter (or to have my own legitimised, both would be equally amazing).

If I was told I was guaranteed to be able to have such an influence if I could complete an IA or written piece of a suitable quality, I'd probably take time off work, clear my calendar and start tomorrow :lol: That says slightly scary things about how much I love and have enjoyed this setting over the decades, but you know, whatever... :)

 

 

What's your Chapter called? I have room right now for a mention. Nothing grand, but I can name-check them.

 

As someone who very much sympathizes with Drakuur's post, that is seriously super awesome of you. Honestly, just a name-drop is the best way for a DIY to be made canon, in my opinion. That's enough to prove it exists, enough for people to talk about it, but not enough for us to worry that more might be done with it that invalidates our own work. It's one of the reasons why so many of us choose to create entirely new Chapters and avoided even those canon Chapters that are no more than names and colors.

 

Like grailkeeper said, prepare to be bombarded with requests now. I'm trying super hard not to myself, but your offer was specifically to Drakuur.

I’m going to disagree with you and dramatically raise the ante by demanding - not merely requesting - that A D-B personally collaborate with me on a novel in which my homebrew Chapter are the protagonists. Aaron, we both know this over-the-top approach has already forced you to cave in. PM when you’re ready to commit all your time and resources.

[Xisor]

Here, Robbie - are the Shadow Haunters deliberately iconless on the shoulder pads? I didn't catch a symbol on your blog, but might have missed it!

 

(I ask as I've got three Deathwatch lads waiting to have icons freehanded, so I'd better stock up on some kids' crayons too, now I think about it.)

 

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I've really become a fan of these 'non-celebrity' Chapters in the last few years. Especially the idea that, in universe, they're genuine celebrities/nobodies. The reaction to the Space Wolf in "Kraken" by Wraight being a perfect counterpoint: well-known (to us) favourites won't necessarily be well known at all in-situ.

 

(Tangential to this: Dark Angel-y stories not about the Fallen. Don't they have day jobs?)

 

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I bet a close reading of the various Deathwatch stories would reveal more than a few!

Edited October 13, 2017 by Xisor

[RobMac]

Hey, Aaron, want to start charging people to namedrop Chapters? Tenner a letter? Can probably get at least half a dozen in per book before the editors catch on...

 

 

Here, Robbie - are the Shadow Hunters deliberately iconless on the shoulder pads? I didn't catch a symbol on your blog, but might have missed it!

(I ask as I've got three Deathwatch lads waiting to have icons freehanded, so I'd better stock up on some kids' crayons too, now I think about it.)

They do have a symbol, it's a skull with the lower half/jaw shrouded by two raven's wings that cross down and over it from behind... someone actually designed it to do a few of their Deathwatch Marines, but sadly I don't have their drawing to hand. I'll stick it in here if I come across it again. 

[Conn Eremon]

Hey, Aaron, want to start charging people to namedrop Chapters? Tenner a letter? Can probably get at least half a dozen in per book before the editors catch on...

1 . . . 2 . . . 3 . . . 4 . . .

 

Do spaces count? Can we make it in the singular? What's your PayPal?

 

Much as I would do anything* to get the Emerald Tigers in, I might settle for a War Consul instead. :lol:

 

*but I won't do that.

Edited October 13, 2017 by Conn Eremon

[Sete]

Ah so it's an author shake up!!!!

And here I was willing to introduce my hot cousin! :D

[Kelborn]

Omg

That would be so awesome. I know exactly how Draakur feels righr now.

 

If you need some name drops, I can also afford some of mine chapters, most notably the Storm Riders, a WS Hawaiian succesor which I'm really proud of. :)

 

Others would be

Warbeasts

Imperial Sons

Phantom Blades

Ebon Blades

Predators

 

Feel free to pick one of them...or maybe two? ;)

[Draakur]

 

 

John and Alan referenced John's Chapter, the Red Seraphs, from time to time. Alan was going to put the Angels Numinous into a FW book, but he selfishly died before he could.

I like the "These guys exist, but anyway, moving on..." references. They're cool.

 

Are the Angels Numinous "your" chapter?

Yeah, my "One day I'll paint an army and they'll be Blood Angel Successors" Chapter.

 

 

I was bitterly disappointed when I saw that that competition was closed :(

I'm actually sitting here and putting real effort into thinking about this, and I genuinely cannot come up with anything I would value more when it came to my involvement in this hobby than to have had an influence on a canon Chapter (or to have my own legitimised, both would be equally amazing).

If I was told I was guaranteed to be able to have such an influence if I could complete an IA or written piece of a suitable quality, I'd probably take time off work, clear my calendar and start tomorrow :lol: That says slightly scary things about how much I love and have enjoyed this setting over the decades, but you know, whatever... :)

 

What's your Chapter called? I have room right now for a mention. Nothing grand, but I can name-check them.

...

I just sat here staring at this post for about 60 seconds then.

 

Are you actually for real A D-B?

 

+edit+

Ok and now the far, far smarter part of my brain has just kicked in and is seeing a basically unheard of opportunity for what it is, so: the Chapter I'm most attached to are the Desolators. They're a White Scars successor, via the Destroyers in theory, though I realise none of that may matter or even stay canon if anything were to happen, etc etc. While the IA is still a work in progress they're almost fully fleshed out, and are far and away my favourite work so far - they were an easy choice.

 

Guess now I learn how long I'm able to hold my breath...!

 

+edit2+

I don't actually know how to say "thank you", here. As we can all probably tell from the gravity of my initial post, this could very easily turn into an embarrassing, gushing, sandal-kissing event that none of us really deserve to be subjected to. I think I'll thank you privately if things come together, but anyway, truly, from the bottom of my heart Aaron - this means a great deal. Thank you.

Edited October 13, 2017 by Draakur

[Sete]

WS sucessor. Good choice my man!

[Xisor]

WS sucessor. Good choice my man!

And (at least) next-gen successors too. Very rare, to my ears, to hear officially of Chapters who're explicitly multiple generations removed!

[grailkeeper]

Hey, Aaron, want to start charging people to namedrop Chapters? Tenner a letter? Can probably get at least half a dozen in per book before the editors catch on...

 

 

 

 

Damn, there goes any chance of my other chapter - "The Angels of Antidisestablishmentarianism" have of getting made canon.

Edited October 13, 2017 by grailkeeper

[Plaguecaster]

I wish I could get my chapter "the Heralds of Salvation" mentioned as they are a pale blue renegade chapter dedicated to the worship of Nurgle as the god of Death

 

It must be the greatest thing being a Black Library aurthor I know if I was one I would just keep dropping references to my own diy chapter non stop :D it would be awesome if Black Library did competitions to get people's created chapters or forces mentioned in novels

 

Hey, Aaron, want to start charging people to namedrop Chapters? Tenner a letter? Can probably get at least half a dozen in per book before the editors catch on...

 

 

 

Here, Robbie - are the Shadow Hunters deliberately iconless on the shoulder pads? I didn't catch a symbol on your blog, but might have missed it!

 

(I ask as I've got three Deathwatch lads waiting to have icons freehanded, so I'd better stock up on some kids' crayons too, now I think about it.)

They do have a symbol, it's a skull with the lower half/jaw shrouded by two raven's wings that cross down and over it from behind... someone actually designed it to do a few of their Deathwatch Marines, but sadly I don't have their drawing to hand. I'll stick it in here if I come across it again.

Hell I'd pay ten times that much to get the honour of name dropping my chapter / warband in actual Black Library books (do you accept PayPal :D ) Edited October 13, 2017 by Plaguecaster

[Chapter Master Valrak]

What about the 'Sons of Vrakk' ;)

[Ascanius]

A list so far:

• Angels Numinous (Aaron Dembski-Bowden)
• Iron Shades (Chris Wraight)
• Jade Dragons (Ben Counter)
• Red Seraphs (John French)
• Shadow Haunters (Robbie MacNiven)

[Commissar Molotov]

 

 

I know exactly what you mean. My own Castigators have been kicking around the board for 12 years now. The thought of being able to claim that they'd had even the smallest impression on the 40k universe would be the greatest achievement!

 

 

They have, in a way. I once didn't include a Chapter called the Castigators - a word I love - because I thought "...wait, they're a famous homebrew on B&C... Better not ruin that guy's project."

 

 

 

I was going to be all, 'What the hell? What's the worst that could happen..?' 

 

I guess the tale of how the Castigators narrowly avoided destruction at the hands of the perfidious Dembsk (reputed to hail from the Thracian Caul) will be celebrated for many years to come! 

Edited October 14, 2017 by Commissar Molotov

[Draakur]

Yeh, that's pretty awesome :) The Castigators are definitely one of the (if not the) most well known and respected DIY Chapters on this board (which is unquestionably the central hub of Astartes fan activity online). I'm guessing more than one famous BL author is aware of them and probably gone A D-B's route. To not have your toes trodden on and your years of hard work quashed is quite the show of respect.

[helterskelter]

I thought they were Canon!

[Minigiant]

 

I was bitterly disappointed when I saw that that competition was closed

 

I'm actually sitting here and putting real effort into thinking about this, and I genuinely cannot come up with anything I would value more when it came to my involvement in this hobby than to have had an influence on a canon Chapter (or to have my own legitimised, both would be equally amazing).

 

If I was told I was guaranteed to be able to have such an influence if I could complete an IA or written piece of a suitable quality, I'd probably take time off work, clear my calendar and start tomorrow That says slightly scary things about how much I love and have enjoyed this setting over the decades, but you know, whatever...

 

What's your Chapter called? I have room right now for a mention. Nothing grand, but I can name-check them.

 

 

I came on here simply to mention the Shadow Haunters and then I saw this.

 

This is without a doubt such a great offer to extend to a 40k fan. I think it goes without saying that whoever you had extended this kind offer to, it would have been making that persons inner child come true. Whatever army you play, everyone who is involved in the 40k universe would love for a small piece of it. What I am saying is what you are doing is great, and is amazing for the whole community.

[Draakur]

 

 

I was bitterly disappointed when I saw that that competition was closed :(

I'm actually sitting here and putting real effort into thinking about this, and I genuinely cannot come up with anything I would value more when it came to my involvement in this hobby than to have had an influence on a canon Chapter (or to have my own legitimised, both would be equally amazing).

If I was told I was guaranteed to be able to have such an influence if I could complete an IA or written piece of a suitable quality, I'd probably take time off work, clear my calendar and start tomorrow :lol: That says slightly scary things about how much I love and have enjoyed this setting over the decades, but you know, whatever... :)

 

What's your Chapter called? I have room right now for a mention. Nothing grand, but I can name-check them.

I came on here simply to mention the Shadow Haunters and then I saw this.

 

This is without a doubt such a great offer to extend to a 40k fan. I think it goes without saying that whoever you had extended this kind offer to, it would have been making that persons inner child come true. Whatever army you play, everyone who is involved in the 40k universe would love for a small piece of it. What I am saying is what you are doing is great, and is amazing for the whole community.

I just spent about half an hour explaining what you've just said to my wife. I'm a grown man with a career, a daughter, and responsibilities, and I think many (very silly, we can all agree) people would just not understand how this might give a person as much joy as it's giving me... but honest to the four powers and the Big E himself, I've not stopped smiling all day :)

 

At one point in our conversation I realised that I actually can't think of anything that's been a part of my life for as long as my love of 40K, and this side of the hobby specifically has always been my main focus. I've practiced martial arts, I've played sports, I've dabbled in various forms of art and music, had different careers... I've engaged in a lot of hobbies and endeavours over the years. Nothing's outlasted my interest in this setting. I remember reading the B&C helping me get through my parents divorce when I was 16 :) It's a part of me in a way that nothing else has quite managed so far in my life.

 

While I tried, I think I ultimately failed to describe to her just how singular and special an honour this is. She was happy that I was happy, but she mostly just took from my gleeful rant that I am very excited and that I "may need medication" - and I ain't even mad. I know you guys get it :)

 

+edit+

Also, we are now bordering on getting off topic, I think? For which I apologise. Getting back on track: I've always liked the name Angels Numinous, Aaron. From what I know we've never got a description of their armour colours, have you ever come to a decision on that?

 

+edit2+

I went looking and found your old WIP thread from 2014, and have learned much! You actually put a decent amout of fluff together for the Angels in that thread too, but I can't help but notice that none of it has ever found its way to Lexicanum or the 40KWiki... so I guess the question now is, is there any reason for that? Did you null it all at some point, or is it more that it's just never been put into a book and is therefore not really canon in the formal sense?

Edited October 14, 2017 by Draakur