Heavy weapon team compatibility?

[Spyboy]

So I was planning on using the gun on death korps heavy weapons teams and the guys from a cadian heavy weapon team with a hostile environment conversion kit. Does anyone know if this will/won't work? The biggest problem I can forsee is the poses in the cadians might not fit with the death korps gun.

 

I was hoping to get this stuff sorted before I buy them and find them incompatible or hard to fit together.

[duz_]

DKoK weapons + Cadian models?

Not sure the scales of the infantry are different I don't know about the equipment though.

Have you considered Victoria Miniatures or other 3rd party sources with similar aesthetics?

[Spyboy]

DKoK weapons + Cadian models?

Not sure the scales of the infantry are different I don't know about the equipment though.

Have you considered Victoria Miniatures or other 3rd party sources with similar aesthetics?

Yes, specifically the heavy weapons, all other weapons I am using cadian weapons for, I just really like the little carriges they have from dkok.

 

I have considered 3rd party models, but if I was to take this army into a tournament I could run into trouble, at least from what I have heard. Unless I am wrong on that?

[Tirak]

Depends. GW Stores and GW run tournies are going to have a 90%+ rule. If you're from a place where GW was particularly negligent in supporting (eg the US) that's significantly more relaxed to a point where "most" of your models should be officially from the game system you're playing. Adepticon however released their Team Tourney Draft Rules and it contained a particularly troubling line that Forge World units must be represented by Forge World models, with the ominious words No Exceptions tacked on to the end. This has led to considerable consternation among players like myself who have included Forge World in our army, yet use various proxies either because the original Forge World model is a hideous piece of junk, or because the model in question is long since out of production. In general though, if you're just swapping out a few heavy weapons you should be for the most part fine, especially since the infantry using the weapons will be official GW ones.

[Spyboy]

Ok, that is good to know. In that case can anyone suggest some good heavy weapon carriges similar to forge world? I have looked at victoria miniatures and don't like thiers.

[duz_]

Unless its a warhammer world or a GW store most events wont care as long as it is clear what the model isn't and youre not trying to game anything shouldn't be an issue.

Always clear with your TO first. Most third party places closely mimic GW weapons anyways so its fairly easy to see what they are.

The bigger issue is proxying. Where the model is clearly something else. Which is ok in casual but not competitive WYSIWYG games. The other one is using artillery pieces and batteries that aren't the correct foot print.

[duz_]

This is a good list of 3rd party minis there's.certainly more out there though

 

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/264401-astra-militarum-resources/

[Spyboy]

Unfortunately the only game store around me that actually plays games as far as I know is a GW store :/. The local one closed down a number of years ago

 

I heard about the artillary batteries being a bit touchy in places, makes sense though.

 

And thanks for the link, might take a bit to go through it all though. lol

[Halfpint100]

Warhammer world recently released an article on the Warhammer community (I think) saying that all models in their event has to be 100% gw/fw.

[Major_Gilbear]

So I was planning on using the gun on death korps heavy weapons teams and the guys from a cadian heavy weapon team with a hostile environment conversion kit. Does anyone know if this will/won't work? The biggest problem I can forsee is the poses in the cadians might not fit with the death korps gun.

 

I was hoping to get this stuff sorted before I buy them and find them incompatible or hard to fit together.

 

Since HWTs all come as a 2W model on a 63mm base as standard, there's no reason not to adjust height and position of the weapons relative to the gunner by using scenic basing techniques. For instance, putting the Heavy Stubber up on a Cadian tripod rather than the DKOK carriage, or building up the base to have the gunner in a shallow trench with the weapon perched up on the edge.

[Spyboy]

Warhammer world recently released an article on the Warhammer community (I think) saying that all models in their event has to be 100% gw/fw.

That sucks :/, guess I will be using the forge world models.

 

@Major_Gilbear

 

I wasn't sure the height difference from a tripod mounted weapon to a carrige mouted weapon would be the same or not, so thanks.

Edited October 16, 2017 by Spyboy

[Major_Gilbear]

Well, that's just it; whatever the height difference between the gunner and the weapon, you can just build up the base to suit. :)

 

The more important thing is to ensure that the Cadians have the correct poses to interact with the weapons, which I'm certain they do (even if you have to swap the ammo type out for the loader).

 

Speaking of which, since you have the Cadian weapons in the Cadian HWT box anyway, can they not be converted or adapted to a style you like more? It might save you rather a lot of money...!

[Spyboy]

Well, that's just it; whatever the height difference between the gunner and the weapon, you can just build up the base to suit. :)

 

The more important thing is to ensure that the Cadians have the correct poses to interact with the weapons, which I'm certain they do (even if you have to swap the ammo type out for the loader).

 

Speaking of which, since you have the Cadian weapons in the Cadian HWT box anyway, can they not be converted or adapted to a style you like more? It might save you rather a lot of money...!

Ok that is perfect, I really just needed the poses to work.

 

And I was thinking of converting them, but i wish them on platforms like the dkok ones, and I have not found better looking ones yet.

[Major_Gilbear]

Well, this shows that the DKOK troops work with the Cadian weapons, so the opposite is therefore equally possible. Glad it was helpful! :)

 

When you say "platforms", do you mean the weapon carriage?

 

If so, you might be able to get some of the old metal Imperial Guard heavy weapon carriages on ebay or second hand for a good price (example).

 

Failing that, I think it'd be simple enough to make you own tricycle carriage with strip styrene or leftover sprue plus some small wheels from another kit (like a chariot or a bike), or made yourself from some plastic tubing.

[Spyboy]

Thanks, that picture definitely proves it can be done.

 

Yes sorry, I do mean carriage.

 

I will certinally look into it, although I love the look of the dkok ones.