MiniB1084 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) hello, everyone, im returning to the hobby after 8 years and have decided to make a legio custodes army. i have not played 30k before so don't know much about making a viable army. Legio Custodes army list 1500pts HQ: Shield Captain -242pts (tribune when in 2000pts army) -Teleportation Transponder -Paragon Spear -Cyber-Familiar -Arae-Shrikes -Melta Bombs -Digital Lasers Elites: Achillius Dreadnought -240pts -Achillius Dreadspear with in built Corvae Las-Pulser Troops: Custodian Guard Squad -300pts (5 man squad) -Teleportation Transponders Sentinel Guard Squad -335pts (5 man squad) -Teleportation Transponders -Magisterium Vexilla Heavy Support: Sagitarium Guard Squad - 340pts (5man squad) -Teleportation Transponders Total 1457pts Models i currently posses: Ixion Hale (shield Captain) 5 man squad of custodian guard w/ guardian spears 5 man squad of sentinel guard w/ vexilla any changes i should make? thanks Edited October 25, 2017 by Caillum removed individual points costs Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340485-need-help-on-legio-custodes-army/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Hey Dan, welcome to the Heresy! :) What you have listed is a great starting force. There’s plenty of stronger options, but Talons of the Emperor don’t really need all of them, as they are probably the most powerful army in 30k. The Horus Heresy is very much a hobbyist and story-driven game, so self-regulation is a good thing. Those models will make up a 1500-point list nicely. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340485-need-help-on-legio-custodes-army/#findComment-4910844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniB1084 Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 Thanks, thats just what i wanted to hear ;) i loved the books so i can tell im going to love the game. cheers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340485-need-help-on-legio-custodes-army/#findComment-4910846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 No worries! Just saw your edited post - only suggestion would be to add Arae-shrikes to everyone, and give the Achillus twin-linked Adrathic destructors. Any points leftover can be used to upgrade some Guardian spears, or take some melta bombs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340485-need-help-on-legio-custodes-army/#findComment-4910851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniB1084 Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) Edited list: Legio Custodes army list 1500pts HQ: Shield Captain -242pts (tribune when in 2000pts army) -Teleportation Transponder -Paragon Spear -Cyber-Familiar -Arae-Shrikes -Melta Bombs -Digital Lasers Elites: Achillius Dreadnought -270pts -Achillius Dreadspear with in built Corvae Las-Pulser - 2x twin linked adrathic destructor Troops: Custodian Guard Squad -335pts (5 man squad) -Teleportation Transponders -Arae shrikes -Melta Bombs Sentinel Guard Squad -370pts (5 man squad) -Teleportation Transponders -Magisterium Vexilla -Arae shrikes -Melta Bombs Heavy Support: Sagitarium Guard Squad - 350pts (5man squad) -Teleportation Transponders -Arae shrikes Total 1567pts is this better? thanks Edited October 25, 2017 by Caillum removed individual points costs Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340485-need-help-on-legio-custodes-army/#findComment-4910853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Looks great to start! It'll be a tough fight and you will need to choose your battles wisely, especially against a very shooty army - but once you hit the enemies lines not much will stop you outside of Terminator counter charges where you don't have AP2. Anything with S10 AP2 needs to be dealt with immediately (Medusas, Dreads etc), I'd recommend using the Saggitarum to do this with Death Beams hitting side armour. My only advice would be how attached are you to Saggitarum? The models are amazing but the rules are really poor compared to using Guardians with Adrathic Spears who not only do not take up a heavy support slot but can also score and have actual AP in combat. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340485-need-help-on-legio-custodes-army/#findComment-4910856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniB1084 Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 i havent even got the dreadnought or saggitarum guard yet, so would a normal custodian guard squad be better than sagitarium? because that would save IRL money aswell haha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340485-need-help-on-legio-custodes-army/#findComment-4910863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniB1084 Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) HQ: Shield Captain -242pts (tribune when in 2000pts army) -Teleportation Transponder -Paragon Spear -Cyber-Familiar -Arae-Shrikes -Melta Bombs -Digital Lasers Elites: Achillius Dreadnought -270pts -Achillius Dreadspear with in built Corvae Las-Pulser - 2x twin linked adrathic destructor Troops: Custodian Guard Squad -335pts (5 man squad) -Teleportation Transponders -Arae shrikes -Melta Bombs Custodian Guard Squad -385pts (5 man squad) -Teleportation Transponders -Arae shrikes -Melta Bombs -Adrasite Spears x5 Sentinel Guard Squad -370pts (5 man squad) -Teleportation Transponders -Magisterium Vexilla -Arae shrikes -Melta Bombs total: 1952pts Edited October 25, 2017 by Caillum removed individual points costs Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340485-need-help-on-legio-custodes-army/#findComment-4910870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiritual Liege Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Why can't I see the text? Does it have something to do with me being on my phone? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340485-need-help-on-legio-custodes-army/#findComment-4915352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Yeah. If you copy and paste, it will use the colour of the text, not set it to automatic. On a phone, white text (the colour pasted) is invisible on a white background! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340485-need-help-on-legio-custodes-army/#findComment-4915360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiritual Liege Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 (edited) Thanks man, now I see it too. The list is fine but you could do with some long range firepower. You could take 2 Caladii to make it to 2000p? Oh you also can't take melta bombs like that, if you take any the whole squad has to take them. Edited October 24, 2017 by Spiritual Liege Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340485-need-help-on-legio-custodes-army/#findComment-4916026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniB1084 Posted October 24, 2017 Author Share Posted October 24, 2017 (edited) hello, i've decided to do 2000pt list as my friend has a 2000pt army. my current list is: HQ: Shield Captain - 242pts -Arae Shrikes -Teleportation Transponder -Cyber Familiar -Digital Lasers -Melta bombs -Paragon Spear Elites: Hetaeron Guard - 435 (5 man) -Arae shrikes -Adrasite spears -teleportation transponders Achillus dreadnought - 270pts -Achillus dreadspear with in built corvae las pulser -2x Twin linked Adrathic destructor Aquilon Terminator Squad - 291pts -Twin linked Adrathic destructors -Teleportation Transponders -Arae Shrikes Troops: Custodian Guard squad (5 man) - 360pts -Teleportation Transponder -Arae Shrikes -Adrasite Spears Sentinel Guard squad (5 man) - 370pts -Teleportation Transponder -Arae Shrikes -Magisterium Vexilla -Melta Bombs Total points cost: 1968 pts ive probably used a couple over priced units (hetaeron, aquilon terminators) but i will in time replace units for some caldius grav tanks like suggested above for long range firepower. any comments and recommendations appreciated. thanks Dan Edited October 25, 2017 by Caillum removed individual points costs Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340485-need-help-on-legio-custodes-army/#findComment-4916313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiritual Liege Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Are Hetaeron overcosted? They're pretty good imo. Also you should probably not list point costs for wargear and instead just list the total cost but I'm no mod to tell you what to do. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340485-need-help-on-legio-custodes-army/#findComment-4916507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Ok, I've gone through your posts and edited the text to automatic - it's really hard for people to work around it on a phone. I also removed the individual points costs and just put a total for each unit. This is to ensure we don't infringe on GW's IP. Here's an example of how to write a unit entry: Legio Custodes Shield Captain: Paragon spear; melta bombs; Arae-shrikes; Teleportation Transponder; digital lasers; Cyber-familiar 242 As SL said, you cannot take melta bombs on squad members individually - it's all of them or none. And Hetaeron Guard are incredibly good, as they can all take Paragon blades and have a better-than Praetor statline. Talons can make a big army very easily - you're latest list is only a Tribune upgrade away from 2k! Whatever style of army you want to go for will be fine man. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340485-need-help-on-legio-custodes-army/#findComment-4916685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniB1084 Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share Posted October 26, 2017 ok thank you very much. im sorry to be a pain, im new to this haha. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340485-need-help-on-legio-custodes-army/#findComment-4917995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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