TheShredder Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 I made these recently: Would you accept them as Astropaths?(Obviously they're not painted yet, but hopefully you get the general idea.) Halfpint100 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340808-would-you-accept-these-as-astropaths/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
barek Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Yes of course! Creepy stuff, great vibe. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340808-would-you-accept-these-as-astropaths/#findComment-4917809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 There’s obviously a (creepy but amazing) theme here, and a strong theme is a great way to win people over! Conversions are always welcome on my tables, so that’s a definite yes from me! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340808-would-you-accept-these-as-astropaths/#findComment-4917813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major_Gilbear Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 As long as they didn't look like anything else, they would be fine by me. My only issue sometimes with very extensive conversions (and especially in armies where every model is totally different to the established look of that army's units) is remembering what's what. As long as it's pretty clear/obvious, then no problem. :) Steel Company 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340808-would-you-accept-these-as-astropaths/#findComment-4917824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1SB Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 NORMALLY, honestly, no, I can't accept something like this, because I really can't tell what I'm looking at. I'm not trying to be a killjoy. BUT HERE, yes, I will accept them, because I'm so curious to figure out what they are, I want you to take them so I can look at them more. Great work, this is some nice body horror. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340808-would-you-accept-these-as-astropaths/#findComment-4917831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeGrunt Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 I'm not following what makes them Astropaths, but I'd be a hypocrite to deny other people's creativity. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340808-would-you-accept-these-as-astropaths/#findComment-4917840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatBrannigan Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 My word they're hideous! Very creepy, well done. If I had to guess I'd say they were servitors but if you told be before a game they were astropaths then why the devil not. Just trying to think what you could add to make them more astropathy... Maybe a couple of very small, shrivelled arms holding a staff? A radar dish or antenna array? walter h 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340808-would-you-accept-these-as-astropaths/#findComment-4917877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 I have to admit I'm with Coffee Not sure what makes them Astropaths? Are they AdMech ones? How are you gonna paint them? :D As for using them in game sure as long as they're unique and easily identifiable. :tu: walter h 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340808-would-you-accept-these-as-astropaths/#findComment-4917882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Closet Skeleton Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 No, not in a normal guard army. In a heavily converted army where everything was 'counts as' maybe. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340808-would-you-accept-these-as-astropaths/#findComment-4917895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShredder Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share Posted October 26, 2017 I'm not following what makes them Astropaths, but I'd be a hypocrite to deny other people's creativity. I have to admit I'm with Coffee Not sure what makes them Astropaths? Are they AdMech ones? How are you gonna paint them? Well, the idea I was running with was of individuals who'd been 'enhanced' by machinery to make them psykers. They've kept their heads, but everything else has been stripped away. They've got simply legs to move around and an array on the top to direct psychic energy (can double as a laspistol). I initially had different heads, with exposed brains (which might have made things clearer). However, they were pretty low-quality and didn't fit very well, so I instead went with the guardsman 'respirator-head', to try and give the impression of a life-support system. From a mechanical perspective, part of the idea was trying to strip the Astropath down to its bare essentials (you've got psychic powers and a piddly gun . . . and that's about it). I wanted to try and give the impression of quite pathetic creatures, basically tortured and mutilated into becoming psykers. (Unfortunately, this can be a little hard to get across, but I might just not be skilled enough at modelling.) In terms of how I'm going to paint them, probably dark, rusty metal for the most part. Not sure whether I want to make the legs look partially-fleshy. I want to try and give the impression that these are largely neglected. I could even add a little blood around the joins, like they're leaking a bit (I'm a delightful person, aren't I?). I might try and paint the array/gun thing on the top a bit brighter - ideally, I'd like to give the impression of crackling psychic energy. My word they're hideous! Very creepy, well done. If I had to guess I'd say they were servitors but if you told be before a game they were astropaths then why the devil not. Just trying to think what you could add to make them more astropathy... Maybe a couple of very small, shrivelled arms holding a staff? A radar dish or antenna array? Thanks. I specifically avoided giving them arms (and I didn't want a staff because I never use them with staffs), because I was trying to give the impression of people being turned into single-function machines, and I think arms would work against that. The Radar Dish or Antenna Array could work though. I'll have a dig around my bits boxes and see if I can find anything appropriate. Thanks for the feedback, everyone. duz_ and Emicus 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340808-would-you-accept-these-as-astropaths/#findComment-4917911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeGrunt Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Hmm, I think some sort of antennae would work to help bring that across, something really esoteric. I'd also suggest getting yourself some guitar wire and a pin vice. It'll be fiddly and time-consuming, but a load of wires going into the heads from the bodies would really enhance the idea of them being cyborg slave types. I'm thinking something like the Butcher's Nails. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340808-would-you-accept-these-as-astropaths/#findComment-4917915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major_Gilbear Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 You know, it might help clarify what they are if they had the sort of details normally associated with, erm, "controversial" Imperial surgical-mechanical procedures. I'm thinking things like purity seals, small chains and padlocks sealing any accessible parts closed, anchor points for chaining them up between theatres of operation, etc. They'd also maybe benefit from having the Adeptus Astra Telepathica symbol on them - either press-moulded from some Wyrdvane Psykers, an Astropath, or painted/stencilled onto the armoured chassis somewhere. walter h, Halfpint100 and P3AKHOUR 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340808-would-you-accept-these-as-astropaths/#findComment-4917934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stercus Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 I agree with major gilbear. If you painted the astropathic symbol on the carapace, there would be no mistaking them for something else. They’re very cool, in a sick and creepy kind of way. walter h 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340808-would-you-accept-these-as-astropaths/#findComment-4918013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShredder Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share Posted October 26, 2017 Regarding Antenna Dishes, what about something like this: (It's just held in place with blu-tac at the moment.) You know, it might help clarify what they are if they had the sort of details normally associated with, erm, "controversial" Imperial surgical-mechanical procedures. I'm thinking things like purity seals, small chains and padlocks sealing any accessible parts closed, anchor points for chaining them up between theatres of operation, etc. They'd also maybe benefit from having the Adeptus Astra Telepathica symbol on them - either press-moulded from some Wyrdvane Psykers, an Astropath, or painted/stencilled onto the armoured chassis somewhere. Huh, I wasn't actually aware of that symbol. My actual Astropath model doesn't seem to have it at all. But yeah, I might have a go at painting it on somewhere. Probably on the 'shoulders'. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340808-would-you-accept-these-as-astropaths/#findComment-4918023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunspear Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 I think themed armies or units are great. I wouldn't have a problem with it. Just tell me, "hey these are my surgically enhanced psykers" and I'm fine with it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340808-would-you-accept-these-as-astropaths/#findComment-4918071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardsman Bob Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 They pass the 75% rule. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340808-would-you-accept-these-as-astropaths/#findComment-4918240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntheHeretic Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 How about these, slightly modified to have a base and a laspistol? https://www.games-workshop.com/en-NL/Dark-Eldar-Prisoners. Not that I´d actually use them though, I´d be branded a sexist.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340808-would-you-accept-these-as-astropaths/#findComment-4918247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3AKHOUR Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Run them as elysian drop sentinels. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340808-would-you-accept-these-as-astropaths/#findComment-4918315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShredder Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share Posted October 26, 2017 Run them as elysian drop sentinels. They might be a tad small for that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340808-would-you-accept-these-as-astropaths/#findComment-4918343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatBrannigan Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Not sure about the antenna placement there... It looks like Cartman's anal probe when it shoots out his backside! The symbol, extra chains and purity seals would be spot on I think. I still like the idea of a really shrivelled arm holding a laspistol but I get why you don't want that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340808-would-you-accept-these-as-astropaths/#findComment-4918616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShredder Posted October 27, 2017 Author Share Posted October 27, 2017 Not sure about the antenna placement there... It looks like Cartman's anal probe when it shoots out his backside! I'll confess to not having realised that. The symbol, extra chains and purity seals would be spot on I think. I still like the idea of a really shrivelled arm holding a laspistol but I get why you don't want that. I don't think I own any purity seals, but I'll see what I can find in the way of chains. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340808-would-you-accept-these-as-astropaths/#findComment-4918625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major_Gilbear Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Good models to look at for the sort of details you might expect are the Penitent Engine, Arco-flagellants, and Daemonhosts. These are all very surgically grafted and/or psychically warded. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340808-would-you-accept-these-as-astropaths/#findComment-4918632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatBrannigan Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 plenty of things like purity seals on bitz sites. I like bitzbox.co.uk for the UK Plenty of seals and chains there and also an Antenna rack for a Dark Eldar Cronos that might just fit the bill :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340808-would-you-accept-these-as-astropaths/#findComment-4918655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeGrunt Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 I'm pretty sure that if you asked, Craig would send you the Purity Seals for free from Bitzbox. Poor lad is drowning in them. :P duz_ 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340808-would-you-accept-these-as-astropaths/#findComment-4918658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloomfoe Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 I would place the antenna near the gun and maybe something a bit more subtle. It seems a little big for a laspistol anyway, so it will imply a greater function to the weapon(like shooting out psychic powers). Also a spotlight might be a nice touch, fluffwise it could represent the astropaths special ability to cancel cover. Ooo also a servo skull attached to the head would be cool. Maybe the human heads are dead astropaths whose brains are being used as fuel to pilot servo skull controlled psychic hounds! Regardless, you have a very cool theme here! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340808-would-you-accept-these-as-astropaths/#findComment-4918718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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