sunspear Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 I have some ogryns/bullgryns that I would like to add to my tallarn regiment. How would you equip them? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340873-how-to-equip-ogryns-in-a-tallarn-regiment/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major_Gilbear Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 The Bullgryns sadly outclass the regular Ripper Gun-armed Ogryn by some distance. Yes, they are more points, but they get to do what they're supposed to, whereas the Orgryn... not so much. Then again, I'm struggling to think of any edition where a unit of Ogryn with Ripper Guns were ever really worthwhile (besides Rule Of Cool) compared to other available options. :( Guardsman Bob 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340873-how-to-equip-ogryns-in-a-tallarn-regiment/#findComment-4919814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feral_80 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 As Bullgryns, exclusively with maul and shields. Any other configuration is useless ingame, and also looks ugly. CoffeeGrunt 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340873-how-to-equip-ogryns-in-a-tallarn-regiment/#findComment-4919829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeGrunt Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 I sadly built my six Bullgryns last edition when the Maul was overpriced and a bit rubbish, so I have loads of Grenade Gauntlet dudes. :/ I'd recommend Slabshield and Maul Bullgryns personally. As the other guys said, the other options just don't really do much. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340873-how-to-equip-ogryns-in-a-tallarn-regiment/#findComment-4919833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Slab shield + maul! Only way to go, outflank them with a psyker and have your opponent sweating if they know what they can do. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340873-how-to-equip-ogryns-in-a-tallarn-regiment/#findComment-4919873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyr13 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Well, Ogryns *did* get a bit of a buff in that they can now actually deal damage in CC, but... still not really optimal. They do look a lot more tallarn-appropriate though (cant really see the ambushing regiment run around with a squad of heavily armoured, shield-carrying cc-dudes...). If youre going CC though, slabshield and maul is the best combo, with maybe one or two brute shields to take the odd LC shot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340873-how-to-equip-ogryns-in-a-tallarn-regiment/#findComment-4919874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mertbl Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 That doesn't work anymore. They faq'd the dagger to infantry officer only. Slab shield + maul! Only way to go, outflank them with a psyker and have your opponent sweating if they know what they can do. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340873-how-to-equip-ogryns-in-a-tallarn-regiment/#findComment-4919876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halfpint100 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Slab shield + maul! Only way to go, outflank them with a psyker and have your opponent sweating if they know what they can do. There is no way to outflank auxiliary units anymore, the dagger has to be an infantry officer leading the same regiment and the tallarn strat has to be tallarn as well. unless you kick them out of a valkyrie, no way to move them that quickly Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340873-how-to-equip-ogryns-in-a-tallarn-regiment/#findComment-4919877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Oh yes that's right Ohwell that's why I put them in a Valk. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340873-how-to-equip-ogryns-in-a-tallarn-regiment/#findComment-4919879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zectz Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 I wouldn't say the Ogryn is useless... Now that they have -1AP in combat they do the same damage in melee vs T4 1W models as Bullgryns with mauls. I don't think people realize that. Anyway. Yeah the Bullgryns open lots more options against high toughness targets & are more durable but it's a bit dramatic saying the Orgyn is useless :) Have any of you actually used them since the codex? Or even in 8th edition? I don't think many people have, but they will say they suck from just looking at the stats. There is a guy at my local store who uses them quite well as an interceptor or shock unit without a transport. You'd be surprised how much damage they can do with combined ripper gun fire + charge against single wound units. They are overcosted for sure when compared to the Bullgryns, but it's a bit naive to say they are useless. Try them! :) Plus I think the ripper gun looks boss. our_baz and walter h 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340873-how-to-equip-ogryns-in-a-tallarn-regiment/#findComment-4919881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 I do have some metal ones that I want to reassemble and paint. I plan on running them as a back line counter assault unit. As they probably have enough lunch to deal with most deep striking / outflanking units. However if I only had a single box and it was my first box too bullgryns are definitely the first thing you should build. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340873-how-to-equip-ogryns-in-a-tallarn-regiment/#findComment-4919884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeGrunt Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 I wouldn't say the Ogryn is useless... Now that they have -1AP in combat they do the same damage in melee vs T4 1W models as Bullgryns with mauls. I don't think people realize that. Anyway. Yeah the Bullgryns open lots more options against high toughness targets & are more durable but it's a bit dramatic saying the Orgyn is useless Have any of you actually used them since the codex? Or even in 8th edition? I don't think many people have, but they will say they suck from just looking at the stats. There is a guy at my local store who uses them quite well as an interceptor or shock unit without a transport. You'd be surprised how much damage they can do with combined ripper gun fire + charge against single wound units. They are overcosted for sure when compared to the Bullgryns, but it's a bit naive to say they are useless. Try them! Plus I think the ripper gun looks boss. Proxied them, they're pretty useless. Too easy to bring down, hit pretty weakly against anything tougher than Tactical Marines. Overall not very impressed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340873-how-to-equip-ogryns-in-a-tallarn-regiment/#findComment-4919886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 I've head that 4 Bullgryns with Mauls inside a Chimera is pretty fun, especially when taken in pairs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340873-how-to-equip-ogryns-in-a-tallarn-regiment/#findComment-4919965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunspear Posted October 29, 2017 Author Share Posted October 29, 2017 Thanks for the advise. I am going to start assembling them now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340873-how-to-equip-ogryns-in-a-tallarn-regiment/#findComment-4920012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feral_80 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 By the way, it is probably unintentional but the dagger still works with bullgryns: give it to an Officer of the fleet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340873-how-to-equip-ogryns-in-a-tallarn-regiment/#findComment-4920037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Withershadow Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 I'm bummed we can't use priests for that anymore. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340873-how-to-equip-ogryns-in-a-tallarn-regiment/#findComment-4920170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feral_80 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Eh, new rules new tactics. As much as the OotF is useless in combat, probably he is now in a good position to support that Vulture/Valkyrie that is joining the flanking assault. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340873-how-to-equip-ogryns-in-a-tallarn-regiment/#findComment-4920253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relictor88 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) my favorate tatic with them is put 4 in a valk, or run 3 with priest for extra attacks and a mini psyker to eather give them -1 to get shot at or plus one to all saves efetivly giving them a 1+ sv. why valk? well even though it got a slight nerf still hovering 19 inches gives the potental of a frist turn charge. becouse grav chute counts as a normal disembark. have fun sling shotting oh BULGRINS all the way. normal ogrins just dont pack as much punch. plus gives you some much needed CC in the liist. been tempted to run more inits as onyl got 2 units of 3 :P Edited October 30, 2017 by Relictor88 Guardsman Bob and duz_ 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340873-how-to-equip-ogryns-in-a-tallarn-regiment/#findComment-4920283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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