Time of madness Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 book has been leaked Preorder on the 2nd of December Available on the 9th of December A few changes in a couple of units. Points moving to match the vanilla codex. No Sammael in Sableclaw in the codex Black knights and deathwing terminators may now be upgraded to a command squad (1 per army) this basically gives them the bodyguard ability. Now the juicy stuff Abilities And they shall know no fear Inner circle This unit automatically passes morale checks. In addition it may reroll at to hit rolls against Heretic Astartes and all to hit and to wound rolls against Fallen in the fight phase Ravenwing If this unit moves it gains a 6+ invulnerable save to all shooting attacks. If it advances it gains a 5+ Invulnerable save to all shooting attacks Grim Resolve All UNFORGIVEN units may Overwatch on a 5+ and will only lose one model to a failed morale test Have the same space marine stratagems as vanilla marines with the exception of Masterful marksmanship Cluster mines Tremor shells Also access to these unique stratagems Fury of the First 2CP Use this stratagem in your shooting phase. All plasma weapons may use the supercharge weapon template but ignore any mortal wounds that would be caused by a roll of 1. Repent for Tomorrow You Die Unforgiven Stratagem 1CP Use this stratagem before overwatch, the UNFORGIVEN unit may fire overwatch at full BS. Teleport Homer Unforgiven Stratagem 2CP Play at the beginning of your turn. Any DEATHWING unit may deepstrike from reserve within 9" of an enemy unit as long as it is within 6" of a RAVENWING UNIT Deathwing Assault Unforgiven Stratagem 2CP Play at the beginning of your turn, any DEATHWING unit entering by deepstrike may fire twice or add 3" to a charge roll this turn. Same standard space marine Warlord Traits as vanilla marines with the following unique ones. Unforgiven Hold at all costs Your warlord and UNFORGIVEN units within 9" of your Warlord may roll a D6 for every wound sustained, on a 5+ it is ignored. Unforgiven Courage of the First Legion UNFORGIVEN units in your army may use your Warlords Leadership for morale checks. Deathwing The Hunt Any enemy Character that your Warlord slays in the fight phase grants one victory point Ravenwing Rapid Manoeuvres Your warlord and any RAVENWING units within 6" of him may add 2" to all move, Advance and charge distances and add +1 to all JINK rolls Relics Sacred standard Only one sacred standard can be taken per army Standard of Devestation All UNFORGIVEN units within 9" of the standard may fire twice in the shooting phase and automatically pass morale checks. Standard of Retribution All UNFORGIVEN units within 9" of the standard may attack twice in the fight phase and automatically pass morale checks. Standard of Fortitude All UNFORGIVEN units within 9" of the standard when suffering an unsaved wound may roll a D6 on a 5+ the wound is ignored and automatically pass morale checks. Mace of Redemption S+3 Ap-3 D2 If a unit suffers damage from this weapon reduce WS by 1 until the end of the next fight phase. Against Heretic Astartes weapon is AP -4 Lion's Roar When attacking with this weapon, choose one or both of the profiles below. If you choose both, subtract 1 from all hit rolls for this weapon- Boltgun 24" Rapid Fire 1 S4 AP0 D1 Plasma 24" AssaultD3 S7 AP-3 D1 Foe Smiter Rapid fire 3 S4 AP-1 D1 Monster Slayer of Caliban S+2 AP-2 D d3 If this weapon causes at least one unsaved wound roll a D6 on a 6 the model is removed from play. Does not effect models with the VEHICLE keyword Shroud of Heroes The shroud of heroes confers a 4+ cover save and for each unsaved wound roll a D6 on a 6+ the save is ignored And finally the biggest news in my opinion Lion El’Jonson M 8" WS 2+ BS 2+ S 6 T 6 W 9 A 7 Ld 10 Sv 2+ Hope Melee Melee S+2 AP -3 D 2 If you roll a wound roll of 6+ for this weapon, it inflicts Mortal Wounds instead of its normal damage. Despair 18” AssaultD3 S8 AP -3 D3 If a unit suffers any damage from this weapon, roll a D6 on a 6 the unit suffers D3 Mortal Wounds And they shall know no fear Master of the First – If your army is battleforged, you receive an additional 3 CP if Lion El’Jonson is your Warlord. Armour of the Order – Lion El’Jonson has a 3+ invulnerable save. In addition all UNFORGIVEN units within 8” receive an 5+ Invulnerable save. Blade Master - For every unsaved wound Lion El'Jonson causes in the fight phase he can immediately make an additional attack. This ability can only be used once per fight phase. Master Strategist- each time a stratagem is used roll a D6 on a 4+ the CP for that stratagem is not spent I Primarch – You can re-roll any failed hit and wound rolls for friendly UNFORGIVEN units within 6” of Lion El’Jonson Grand Master Belial 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341045-dark-angel-book-leaks-rules/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Source? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341045-dark-angel-book-leaks-rules/#findComment-4924288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HsojVvad Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Coming back from a long hiatus. This is a very welcome thing to see. Thank you for showing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341045-dark-angel-book-leaks-rules/#findComment-4924289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HsojVvad Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 (edited) · Hidden by Brother Tyler, November 7, 2017 - Picking a fight for no reason Hidden by Brother Tyler, November 7, 2017 - Picking a fight for no reason Source? I come back from a long hiatus, when did our family become so rude? Source? From Time of Madness. It's a rumor. Why you need sources? Either believe or don't believe. Why do a lot of people feel the need to question people? It might be fake? Even if it is, so what? Take it as you will. Edited November 4, 2017 by HsojVvad Slave to Darkness 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341045-dark-angel-book-leaks-rules/#findComment-4924293
Time of madness Posted November 4, 2017 Author Share Posted November 4, 2017 Inner circle on Facebook posted it. Looks pretty legit. Sete 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341045-dark-angel-book-leaks-rules/#findComment-4924296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komodo Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 I don't have enough salt to eat this :) Saphrael 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341045-dark-angel-book-leaks-rules/#findComment-4924299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbaeza94 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 The lion! I hope it's true. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341045-dark-angel-book-leaks-rules/#findComment-4924304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HsojVvad Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 The lion! I hope it's true. Well it's either a lie or my wallet is going to be crying. With the Games Workshop rule of thumb, no mini, no rules, and since The Lion has stats in the rumour that would mean it will be getting a mini, or the rumour is false. What ever it is, it's exciting non the less. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341045-dark-angel-book-leaks-rules/#findComment-4924346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowCore67 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 (edited) I feel like they would have started building up the release of another primarch by now. They teased mortarion for months. I can't imagine they'd just throw the Lion in there with no build up and only a month remaining until the alleged release date. Edited November 4, 2017 by ShadowCore67 shandwen 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341045-dark-angel-book-leaks-rules/#findComment-4924349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aura_enchanted Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 (edited) I feel like they would have started building up the release of another primarch by now. They teased mortarion for months. I can't imagine they'd just throw the Lion in there with no build up and only a month remaining until the alleged release date. either that or it shows how little games workshop actually gives a single feth about our book and army Edited November 4, 2017 by aura_enchanted Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341045-dark-angel-book-leaks-rules/#findComment-4924355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 (edited) · Hidden by Brother Tyler, November 7, 2017 - No reason given Hidden by Brother Tyler, November 7, 2017 - No reason given Source? I come back from a long hiatus, when did our family become so rude? Source? From Time of Madness. It's a rumor. Why you need sources? Either believe or don't believe. Why do a lot of people feel the need to question people? It might be fake? Even if it is, so what? Take it as you will. You think I'm rude? Oh boy you are in for a treat! It's a legit question. Its a rumour so it originated somewhere. I asked for the source. Let me rephrase. Source, please? Edited November 4, 2017 by Sete Saphrael, Morticon, Loar and 5 others 8 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341045-dark-angel-book-leaks-rules/#findComment-4924383
Komodo Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 (edited) Сmon guys. The whole "leak" looks like somebody took 6th edition codex and current Index, then added wishlisting and as a cherry on top -- primarch. . Primarchs are a big deal, remember how Magnus was introduced, along with 1000 sons and a whole campaign, then we got gathering storm and Roboute, along with Cawl and a whole new range of Primaris dudes later on. Then we got Morty with the release of a WHOLE new army along with a huge release of new minis. N-ah, not gonna happen. Double release of BA/DA and a good'ol Lion thrown in? Phhft. I know we all want this, but the "leaked" rules are so badly done, it just reeks fake to me. I would kill myself digesting that amount of salt to even consider this as true. Added: And what with this badly given names like "hope" and "despair" for the weapons? Laughable. So we just throw away Cypher and a sword he was carring for 10k years... right. Edited November 4, 2017 by Komodo Chmur, Saphrael, shandwen and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341045-dark-angel-book-leaks-rules/#findComment-4924384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboosegg Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Added: And what with this badly given names like "hope" and "despair" for the weapons? Laughable. So we just throw away Cypher and a sword he was carring for 10k years... right. Hope and Despair are actual names for the twin swords the lion has during the heresy he loses one fighting a tzeech greater deamon. the lions sword wasnt even the lions he borrowed it from one of his captains. the sword is important because of what it being broken represents. so names are not far fetched. i'm taking this with Salt but if remotely any truth would make for a good codex and a different army build to SM lists. Brother Bish 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341045-dark-angel-book-leaks-rules/#findComment-4924392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Ikka Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Hmm. Doubtful at best. While there have been some hints that we would see the Lion (Rumor Engine pics of possible armor), I don't think that GW would have a Primarch release with less than two months of hype. Going to label this as unfounded without any further proof/leaks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341045-dark-angel-book-leaks-rules/#findComment-4924394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtse Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 (edited) Is this a wish list haha Honestly though I do predict some of these things. The unforgiven traits and the strategems seem fluffy. Those relics will certainly be same names as the ones we had in 7th. But the lion? Without further proof I don’t believe Edited November 4, 2017 by dtse Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341045-dark-angel-book-leaks-rules/#findComment-4924395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Bish Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Added: And what with this badly given names like "hope" and "despair" for the weapons? Laughable. So we just throw away Cypher and a sword he was carring for 10k years... right. I agree with everything else you said, but Hope & Despair are a pair of swords the Lion has in the Horus Heresy books. And someone correct me if I'm wrong but didn't he give the broken Lion sword to someone and told them to get rid of of it, but they didn't? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341045-dark-angel-book-leaks-rules/#findComment-4924397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomanyprojects Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 (edited) I am intrigued - I want Cypher to have been his agent all along Edited November 4, 2017 by Toomanyprojects Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341045-dark-angel-book-leaks-rules/#findComment-4924430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 If true, wow. Helias_Tancred 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341045-dark-angel-book-leaks-rules/#findComment-4924433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komodo Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Thanks guys, didn't know Hope and Despair were valid names, will do my research. I read only the first HH DA book, disliked how Lion's character was depicted there and rage quited reading further. FarFromSam 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341045-dark-angel-book-leaks-rules/#findComment-4924478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 (edited) If true, this will be immensly powerful. Hard to believe though. This would break a whole lot of boundaries like Deep Striking within 9". And c'mon, a banner that allows you to shoot twice? This is insane to say the least. I hope this is true, because this sounds like fun, but I also hope it is nit, because it would break what little balance we have. Edited November 4, 2017 by Frater Cornelius Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341045-dark-angel-book-leaks-rules/#findComment-4924480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Raziel Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 (edited) It seems unconventional, but maybe GW isn't planning on releasing the model for the Lion at the same time as the codex. With Chaos Daemons coming right afterward, maybe there will be a thing involving the Angels of Death chapters and Daemons, and the Lion model will be released for that. Just a thought. Frater Cornelius, on 04 Nov 2017 - 5:13 PM, said:If true, this will be immensly powerful. Hard to believe though. This would break a whole lot of boundaries like Deep Striking within 9". And c'mon, a banner that allows you to shoot twice? This is insane to say the least. I hope this is true, because this sounds like fun, but I also hope it is nit, because it would break what little balance we have. Khorne Berserkers can fight twice every fight phase, and Leman Russ tanks can shoot their turret weapons twice a turn if they keep their movement down. The banner seems more plausible when taken in that context. Edited November 4, 2017 by Grand Master Raziel Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341045-dark-angel-book-leaks-rules/#findComment-4924483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 (edited) Those are select units that are costed appropriately and maybe even designed around that idea. Taking that rule out of context is nuts. Imagine a Razorback with Twin AC firing twice or Rapid Fire Hellblasters. Heck, imagine a Repulsor firing twice with its bazillion guns. Also, there would be a design flaw. What if DW use the Stratagem to fire twice and are within banner range. How often do they fire? This is Ynnari levels of rules here. No one should wield that amount of power. Maybe there are restrictions, but taken at face value this seems a little hard to believe. Edit: I suppose there is Guilliman though with his insane bubble, so I guess everything is possible... Edited November 4, 2017 by Frater Cornelius Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341045-dark-angel-book-leaks-rules/#findComment-4924489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanlee Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 These rules look total fake I kind of hope there true but won't belive it till I have the codex in my hands Komodo 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341045-dark-angel-book-leaks-rules/#findComment-4924519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffJedi Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 I want Sableclaw in the codex. sneakybamsen 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341045-dark-angel-book-leaks-rules/#findComment-4924546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Ikka Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 The wrong edition wording for the cover save for the Shroud, and the fact that aside from vehicles Khârn is the only unit in the game that recieves mortal wounds with a roll of 1 on overcharged plasma is a big red flag. All other infantry units, including the likes of Chaplain Grimaldus and Cato Sicarus, have the wording that the bearer is slain if they roll a 1 with an overcharged plasma weapon. There is also no unit target for the 2CP stratagem for the plasma weaponry, making it seem like your entire list benefits from it, which seems significantly overpowered/undercosted. Komodo and shandwen 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341045-dark-angel-book-leaks-rules/#findComment-4924550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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