Chapter approved - SOB changes

[Matt_149]

So faeit has posted a rumour of changes coming to sisters in chapter approved which comes out in December. They are as follows;

 

"Adepta Sororitas

Strategems

1GP Martydom-use when a character dies and on a 2+ can perform an Act of Faith

1GP Purity of Faith- use when an enemy uses psychic powers within 24" on a 4+ negate it.

 

 

Warlord Trait

re-roll failed morale tests if within 6" of Warlord

 

Relic

Blade to replace power sword. Melee S +2 AP-3 D3"

 

They seem fairly...average? So most likely true!

 

http://natfka.blogspot.co.uk/2017/11/chapter-approved-2017-coming-in.html?m=1 refers to the article if you want to have a look :)

[Banjulhu]

Isn't the re-roll to morale an outright downgrade to the basic trait that adds 1 to all Lds within 6"?

[A.T.]

Nothing that makes any difference at all, aside from scumming extra faith actions everytime a gemini bites it.

Perhaps there is more to it than that.

[Beams]

Nothing that makes any difference at all, aside from scumming extra faith actions everytime a gemini bites it.

Perhaps there is more to it than that.

Oh good, that's going to make my opponents like me. You killed me Gemini? AoF bring her back! Or more likely, AoF nearby Dominion squad!

[Montford]

So, if a Geminae is killed when my opponent charges Celestine's Team, if I roll 2+ Celestine gets to immediately swing at them? :)

 

 

Relic: My power sword armed Canoness will see the table again!

[Beams]

You can only perform one AoF on a unit a turn, so if Celestine has already had hers, she can't. But if not, go for it.

[Ficinus]

It'll need an FAQ on whether units can perform one AoF per game turn or player turn.

[Ishagu]

Yeah, technically this is during the opponent's turn. I'd say yes.

IF it meant both the rules would say 1 AoF per battle round?

[Mossback]

It says a character, so I'm thinking I can bring back a canoness who was just killed. That is a pretty useful strategem!

[Atrus]

Nah. Canoness is off the field by then, cant bring her back. Although...if celestine has already been removed and a geminae goes down (assume 2 geminae and AoF hasnt already been used by them for some reason) you could use it to bring her back >:D

[ERJAK]

Want the sword want the sword want the sword

[Banjulhu]

Want the sword want the sword want the sword

 

Why? Non-St Celestine sisters are not exactly geared for combat and at most you will get a Canoness throwing out 4 Str5 -3AP attacks that do D3 wounds.

[CaptainHelion]

Among other things, because Assault does happen, even if you don't want it to. The other big reason for me, is that Swords are Cool as heck

[Beams]

 

 

Want the sword want the sword want the sword

Why? Non-St Celestine sisters are not exactly geared for combat and at most you will get a Canoness throwing out 4 Str5 -3AP attacks that do D3 wounds.

a Cannoness with a priest nearby basically his all 5 times, and with that sword should wound on 3+ vs Marines, leaving them with a 6+ to dodge. It's not amazing, but it's a decent counter charge unit for the cheap cost if 49+ranged weapon.

Edited November 9, 2017 by Beams

[CaptainMarsh]

This assumes the rumours are true or accurate.

[Blackarmor_redtruth]

 

OP: ... They seem fairly...average? So most likely true!

 

+1

Edited November 10, 2017 by Blackarmor_redtruth

[Ishagu]

I'm very happy with the relic blade.

 

I have a lovely, painted up Canoness Verydian model I'll be using now :-D

[Atrus]

Relic blade will definately be nice. Cost depending of course.

[Drider]

would be nice to put that relic blade on a geminae 

[CaptainHelion]

The cost will likely be the price of a power sword, given that's how Relics work in the recent codicies. You get one Relic for free (some of which swap for a regular item wargear which you do need to pay for), and you can pay additional Command Points to have an extra one or two Relics.

[foxlight713]

It says a character, so I'm thinking I can bring back a canoness who was just killed. That is a pretty useful strategem!

 

May be, maybe not.  We will need the book to see, because the way the rumor is written it seems that the Character itself is the one to use the act of faith.  However that brings into question if that character has already used and act of faith in your active turn. Also with the one can can bring a model of a unit back to the table is a big question, however the option to shoot or fight would be reasonable before they are removed from the table.  Also a question of if that Act of faith can be passed onto another unit.

[dracpanzer]

From the short hand used in the rumor bit I think at this point its impossible to know how the rule is written. Though having the character that was just removed both prox the AoF by being destroyed and then being the one who has to use the AoF after it has been removed from the table seems the least likely to me.

[Servant of Dante]

Interesting enough. Would at least give us something to play with. I imagine the sword would be this edition’s rendition of the Blade of Admonition. Will be curious to see if they continue with the retcon that it’s Dominica’s sword rather than just a relic. I mean, no reason for them to go back on it besides I kinda want them to, and I’d be supprised if they even referenced anything older than the e-dex when writing the Sisters rules and fluff for 8E anyway :P

 

I agree though, seems basic so it just might be true.

Edited November 10, 2017 by Servant of Dante

[Banjulhu]

I agree though, seems basic so it just might be true.

 

I'm totally psyched to get a warlord trait that has an effect the army already had access to through a 15pts elite choice

Edited November 10, 2017 by Banjulhu

[A.T.]

I'm totally psyched to get a warlord trait that has an effect the army already had access to through a 15pts elite choice

 

Even without the dialogus i'm not sure why anyone would take it over the +1 leadership trait - and I don't think anyone takes that one either.