Aothaine Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 remember, with reivers you can get some real opportunity targets on a table with terrain that has multiple levels. deepstrike more than 9" from a target that is high up in terrain (you measure from the model), then charge ignores the height for charge distance, which means there is potential for some incredibly easy charges. And when there isn't, just drop them into terrain themselves and you have a 2+ save and 2 wounds to keep you going for a round, jump pack priest could drop with them to both improve their survivability for a turn and increase their damage output on their next turn too. I wonder if you could get away with modeling the priest with a grapple instead of a jump pack. :) Use the new Primaris model too.. Man.. I'm really looking forward to this release. But hesitant to buy anything non-primaris. So I'm about halfway through Devastation of Baal and think I'll be going with a Primaris Charnel Guard army (apparently they have "sombre grey armor", whatever that means)- problem is I haven't the slightest clue what I'm doing as far as list building with all this newfangled "technology"... Some info about the Charnel Guard if you want: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Charnel_Guard http://thegoodthebadtheinsulting.blogspot.com/2015/08/10-underrated-space-marine-chapters-who.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 I honestly don't understand why people say list building with points is a nightmare. I find it very easy even without battlescribe. Karhedron and Pendent 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremon Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 - problem is I haven't the slightest clue what I'm doing as far as list building with all this newfangled "technology"...Man, go with power levels. So much easier. List building with points is now a nightmare.If someone really wants to abuse power levels they can, but: 1) equipping every model in the army with 2 thunder hammers is expensive We 2) you'll never play them again. WYSIWYG isn’t a rule anymore as best as I can tell; it’s an etiquette thing now. So...those chainswords are thunder hammers if the list says they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) - problem is I haven't the slightest clue what I'm doing as far as list building with all this newfangled "technology"...Man, go with power levels. So much easier. List building with points is now a nightmare.If someone really wants to abuse power levels they can, but: 1) equipping every model in the army with 2 thunder hammers is expensive We 2) you'll never play them again. WYSIWYG isn’t a rule anymore as best as I can tell; it’s an etiquette thing now. So...those chainswords are thunder hammers if the list says they are. WYSIWYG was never a real rule outside of tournaments. It was always just advised to follow it. Nothing changed there. Edited November 29, 2017 by sfPanzer Bremon 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremon Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 I don’t think it was a figment of our imaginations in 3rd, because we were 14 and didn’t attend tournaments, but, again, we were 14, so maybe just stupid and grabbed onto the idea of things looking accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Memories are not always true. The brain actively changes memories and the longer ago they are the less you can be sure of them reflecting the exact situation back then. ;) Then again I wasn't playing during 3rd edition and it was a very different game back then so anything is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 WYSIWYG was a rule for some time.Some people care, others do not. I personally am not a huge fan of non-WYSIWYG and always run my stuff as such. I prefer if my opponents do also, but wouldnt be to upset if they didnt in pick up games. Panzer 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pendent Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 I don't really care if my opponent proxies their models or weapons but I find it incredibly difficult to keep track of what my units are armed with if they aren't WYSIWYG. Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekfud Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 I did something stupid in prep for the codex drop... I had a bunch of DC ready to prime and thought I'd hold off in case I want to make some last min changes on loadout before they go under the airbrush. Instead, I decided to start a side project from last Christmas - I had bought a couple of Hirst molds and went about building a set of 3D tiles for space hulk (see... it's still BA related... sorta on topic?) Turns out casting and building a set is somewhat... extensive. 30-34x casts of each mold (approx 550 pieces from the edge molding, and 350 floor tiles), to make ~60 odd floor pieces. Then glue to foamboard. So far, I have made... 7 space hulk floor pieces. It is taking long enough that they should be done by 9th Ed 40k, rather than codex drop. Hidden Content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Meanwhile, I’ll be working on how to counter them :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 After looking them over, I've decided to get a Hunter/Stalker tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 So tomorrow I can get my hands on the Dark Imperium Primaris. I guess I know what I'll be doing the whole weekend. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 WYSIWYG isn’t a rule anymore as best as I can tell; it’s an etiquette thing now. So...those chainswords are thunder hammers if the list says they are. WYSIWYG was an official rules for a while, but has always been there. With power levels your models are armed with what they are armed with. If you rock up every week and say your 10 BP+ccw armed company vets actually have twin hammers, then you ID yourself as a beardy douche immediately, with the massive advantage taking of the rules, and I am going to give you no mercy in game. If you had actually taken the time and effort to model 10 guys with dual hammers, no probs, that's a hell of an awesome unit. As above it's an etiquette/respect for your opponent/social contract thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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