rendingon1+ Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 No pictures here, just a question. What do you people think of coverting primaris into HH era armour mks? Looking across numerous threads I discovered it's actually doable (to a degree) and not that difficult (probably hehe) as it looks. Many fraters posted awesome and interesting conversions so I think I might give it a go myslef. + MAJOR: you get better scaled (when compared to custodes, sisters, SA and primarchs), better proportioned astartes exciting modelling project! - cost :( vehicles became even more ridiculous in size as they are now troublesome equipment like jump packs, bikes etc gameplay handicap: your dudes suddenly got a lot of height meaning LoS and cover problems I know I'll definitely include some primaris based convertions for my fledgling AL force but I wonder if entire army of big guys is a good idea. Mayby there are some cons I didn't take into account etc. So...what say you? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341312-converting-primaris-into-hh/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 · Hidden by Slips, November 13, 2017 - No reason given Hidden by Slips, November 13, 2017 - No reason given No pictures here, just a question. What do you people think of coverting primaris into HH era armour mks? Looking across numerous threads I discovered it's actually doable (to a degree) and not that difficult (probably hehe) as it looks. Many fraters posted awesome and interesting conversions so I think I might give it a go myslef. + MAJOR: you get better scaled (when compared to custodes, sisters, SA and primarchs), better proportioned astartes exciting modelling project! -cost :( vehicles became even more ridiculous in size as they are now troublesome equipment like jump packs, bikes etc gameplay handicap: your dudes suddenly got a lot of height meaning LoS and cover problems I know I'll definitely include some primaris based convertions for my fledgling AL force but I wonder if entire army of big guys is a good idea. Mayby there are some cons I didn't take into account etc. So...what say you? Don't. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341312-converting-primaris-into-hh/#findComment-4930969
Luna707 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 (edited) Don't listen to the haters, having a complete force of accurately scaled Astartes is a truly cool experience and with the advent of the Primaris kits it's easier than it has ever been. There are a few examples out there too, the first that comes to mind are some AL legionnaires I saw on instagram actually, here's a link to the (jaycop313): https://www.instagram.com/jaycop313/ (Scroll down on his feed a little bit, he's been doing some other stuff recently) There are actually a couple people on BaC too who have tried their hand at it including the Apologist himself and Xanthier: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/337560-the-alien-wars-–-on-the-warpath-in-m35/#entry4842934 (Not Horus Heresy, but you still get the idea!) http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328717-iron-within-iron-without-iron-shake-it-all-about/page-6?do=findComment&comment=4930167 (if I miss anyone I'm sorry, that's all I can think of at the moment) I haven't tried it myself, but there seems to be a spectrum of conversion involvement ranging from minimal changes like head and pauldron swaps to more complicated changes to make it truly look like Mk IV armor. What I like most about this is that they look great no matter how in depth you go with it. Also, I'm guessing that they would be cheaper than full resin Horus Heresy (and way cheaper than how I go about true scaling!). The vehicles are a problem however hahaha I don't sweat it much but there are many hobbyists out there who have done some really excellent work on Biggerizing things like rhinos and land raiders, Markus_ on BaC is a notable example: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331356-heresy-era-legio-xiv-mortarions-finest/#entry4665831 Edited November 13, 2017 by Luna707 rendingon1+ 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341312-converting-primaris-into-hh/#findComment-4930997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 I don't see any reason not to, the models are gorgeous. rendingon1+ 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341312-converting-primaris-into-hh/#findComment-4931000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kizzdougs Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 It'll take a lot of work to pull off convincingly (depending on how Heresy appropriate you want to keep it). Also, I'm not sure how the scale will work vis-a-vis the Custodes and Primarchs. I assume that the Primarchs were scaled to fit with the regular marines. A primaris wouldn't be much smaller than Angron or Lorgar. Not sure how much taller than a marine a Custodes is supposed to be, but the minis are the same size as a primaris marine. If you can pull it off it'll look fantastic :tu: Fenbain and rendingon1+ 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341312-converting-primaris-into-hh/#findComment-4931122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProsperoStands Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 A hobby project is a hobby project. If it is something you want to try go for it! I certainly would not mind playing against someone in 30k with Nu Marines as long as it looks likes they tried.I personally would not but that is because I am staging my own little protest of the Mary Sue Marines by not buying any. rendingon1+ 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341312-converting-primaris-into-hh/#findComment-4931147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 What is a Mary Sue Marine ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341312-converting-primaris-into-hh/#findComment-4931789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rendingon1+ Posted November 14, 2017 Author Share Posted November 14, 2017 Thanks for the answears people! Ithink that mayby it would be good to see if HH armours are managable first and making plans for the army second :) As for the scale I'd really like my astartes to tower over humans and stuff and I prefere the fluff where custodes are slightly taller than SM (subjective thing I know). Unfortunately scale as such do not exist in GW games but with larger SM I think it might work. At least for me. Kizzdougs, BLACK BLΠFLY and Luna707 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341312-converting-primaris-into-hh/#findComment-4931804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Lunkhead Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Sounds like a great idea You definitely have your work cut out for you. But what's a good project without a challenge, heh? Good luck brother! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341312-converting-primaris-into-hh/#findComment-4931830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Dog Studios Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 I've been thinking about this myself a lot recently. Whilst it can work with minor change, I'm too much of a stickler to not do it to a certain standard myself. The great thing is that regular heads, backpacks, arms and shoulder pads all work on the Primaris fine without looking out of place, it is the torso and legs that are the issue. I've been tempted to try and make a separate MK IV torso front using the normal primaris torso with some green stuff and quitar string, and then casting it. But with funds being a bit dry lately I've yet to have the chance to attempt it unfortunately. Same with the legs, especially intercessor legs where the shin and knees are separate from the main leg. Just converting some separate left and right shins and then casting them could work great. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341312-converting-primaris-into-hh/#findComment-4932102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProsperoStands Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Mary Sue : "An idealized and seemingly perfect fictional character" The Primarus Marines are made to just be better then normal Marines, and have none of the flaws. They are so detached from the traditions of the Chapters that they come off as robots. Just bad fluff IMO. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341312-converting-primaris-into-hh/#findComment-4932262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Capt. Jack (iirc) had started a project to convert Primaris Armor into Mark 3, so I'm waiting to see how that goes. Worst case scenario, add 1-2mm plasticard to widen the torso, and a small 1mm piece at the showulders and you can imply a larger scale oldmarine torso. betrayer41 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341312-converting-primaris-into-hh/#findComment-4932293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Fluff gets rerconned all the time. The current 40k story is just ridonkolous... but I still play. Plaguecaster 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341312-converting-primaris-into-hh/#findComment-4932473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
betrayer41 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Capt. Jack (iirc) had started a project to convert Primaris Armor into Mark 3, so I'm waiting to see how that goes. Worst case scenario, add 1-2mm plasticard to widen the torso, and a small 1mm piece at the showulders and you can imply a larger scale oldmarine torso. Is there a tutorial on how to do this? I am garbage at it haha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341312-converting-primaris-into-hh/#findComment-4932492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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