Blindhamster Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 So, there's a bit that is simple due to a head injury during the trials, as a result he is denied the chance to become a marine.However throughout it he saves his father and helps his father repeatedly, being surprisingly brave for a 12 year old.Near the end a primaris apothecary determines that the brain damage can be repaired and that he is a perfect match. So decides the boy will be made into a primaris marine.Now, we also discover that Dante doesn't think he is the golden armoured warrior to defend the emperor any more, even after surviving he seems to think he has a part to play but doesn't necessarily think it's him.Could this boy that we followed through the story he more important than initially let on?Especially when we know the figure from dantes vision was marine shaped. And because we know Guy plans to write another book about Dante in the future and has pitched some other ideas. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341640-teus-devastation-of-baal-spoilers/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Not everyone is aware of what "DoB" means (I'm certainly not) so it would be great if you could put the name in full so we're all aware which book this thread will spoil. Cheers. :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341640-teus-devastation-of-baal-spoilers/#findComment-4939323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTaW Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Not to mention this fits right in with the thread on the book...? Interesting to hear that a wider selection of applicants can be approved for Primaris. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341640-teus-devastation-of-baal-spoilers/#findComment-4939325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted November 23, 2017 Author Share Posted November 23, 2017 I made a distinct thread as I feel it warrants it. Speculation on the visions and future, and also this one character that seemed so unimportant till right near the end. I tweaked the title, I called it that as I've been seeing that used everywhere. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341640-teus-devastation-of-baal-spoilers/#findComment-4939335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathspectersgt7 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 He might be the BA Uriel I bet we will hear more from him. The postman better have my book tomorrow. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341640-teus-devastation-of-baal-spoilers/#findComment-4939344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Near the end a primaris apothecary determines that the brain damage can be prepared and that he is a perfect match. So decides the boy will be made into a primaris marine. I really hope they don't plan to "prepare" the brain damage. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341640-teus-devastation-of-baal-spoilers/#findComment-4939353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted November 23, 2017 Author Share Posted November 23, 2017 Near the end a primaris apothecary determines that the brain damage can be prepared and that he is a perfect match. So decides the boy will be made into a primaris marine. I really hope they don't plan to "prepare" the brain damage. Fixed! I posted from my phone and auto correct got the better of me! So what do people think? Will the Golden Astartes (definitely not human or custodes apparently) be Dante? Or possibly his successor or someone else? What happens to the Axe Mortalis if its Dante?! Do we think there is potential the this Teus? I personally liked that they went with the idea, we already saw in "Dante" that sometimes the best marines arent the biggest, fastest or strongest. Dante himself is meant to have been fairly unremarkable beyond being a very good genetic match. The boy showed heroism a number of times, saving his father despite his father outright hating him all the way to the end. I also thought it was interesting that he repeatedly got described as having been very smart before the accident too. And yeah, also interesting to see that the primaris approach (genesis machines apparently) make candidates that might have failed purely because of the smallest issue into viable ones. It fits with the Great Crusade Era when success rates were significantly higher. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341640-teus-devastation-of-baal-spoilers/#findComment-4939361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 I wonder if we will ever get to that. GW is advancing the story but will they advance it this far? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341640-teus-devastation-of-baal-spoilers/#findComment-4939363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted November 23, 2017 Author Share Posted November 23, 2017 I wonder if we will ever get to that. GW is advancing the story but will they advance it this far? possibly (probably) not. But it's fun to speculate. In terms of Teus, what do we think there? possibility for an interesting protagonist in some other stories down the line? or a throw away? based on when Devastation of Baal ends, Teus would have been a primaris marine for 30 or so years by the point we are at now (Devastation specifically says its been around 70 years since the start of the indomitus crusade, and we know at the start of dark imperium its been over 100 years of crusading at that point). So he's a full fledged primaris marine and either dead or potentially in a battle company. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341640-teus-devastation-of-baal-spoilers/#findComment-4939366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Could be anything really. I think the only important thing here is that Primaris Marines can get made from humans that wouldn't get made into normal Space Marines before. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341640-teus-devastation-of-baal-spoilers/#findComment-4939371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathspectersgt7 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Easy Bake Oven . Too Simple. I bet Teus will show up in the next novel And it deals with the Revenant Crusade. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341640-teus-devastation-of-baal-spoilers/#findComment-4939494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted November 23, 2017 Author Share Posted November 23, 2017 That may make sense Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341640-teus-devastation-of-baal-spoilers/#findComment-4939496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafen IX Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 I'm positive Dante still believes he is the golden warrior brothers. It mentions it post Duel, I can find the passage if you want. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341640-teus-devastation-of-baal-spoilers/#findComment-4939734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted November 24, 2017 Author Share Posted November 24, 2017 The certainty of service calmed his troubled thoughts, but one thing nagged at him. Sanguinius’ prophecy had not been disproved after all. The golden warrior would still be needed to stand at the Emperor’s side in the final days. Perhaps he had a vital part yet to play. Nothing suggests that he's changed his mind and believes it's definitely him anymore. Though clearly it could be. He does think he perhaps has a part to play though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341640-teus-devastation-of-baal-spoilers/#findComment-4939816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafen IX Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 To me that says he still believes it's him, but it's easily open to interpretation either way. Sanguinius sending him back I'm liking more and more after I re read the book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341640-teus-devastation-of-baal-spoilers/#findComment-4941384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandion40 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 To me that says he still believes it's him, but it's easily open to interpretation either way. Sanguinius sending him back I'm liking more and more after I re read the book. That’s the way I read it to. Dante doubted during the book but at the end again suspects it’s him, but even if it’s not he knows he has a part to play. I also read Teus brain damage differently, I read it as his brain damage could always have been fixed but before the invasion the BA were actively looking for reasons to fail potential recruits, so probably saw he was hurt and sent him away without examining him. The invasion changed that, with the BA desperate for recruits plus all the survivors humans having more than proved themselves they bent the rules. Nothing to do with Primaris enhancements being applicable to more people, though that’s still possible as far as I know. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341640-teus-devastation-of-baal-spoilers/#findComment-4941487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluejayJunior Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 I read it the same as pandion40. He was injured and thus failed the trials, but his brain damage could always have been fixed. Now they are desperate to replenish numbers (and he has done much to earn a place) so he is now accepted. My first thought was that he may be the new Primaris Lieutenant model. I know in another topic someone mentioned he supposedly is a named character, so that's what my mind jumped to. It will be interesting to see what happens with him. There has to be more to him. I initially just thought he and his father were only used to show another perspective of the battle (which they definitely were), but the end suggests something more for him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341640-teus-devastation-of-baal-spoilers/#findComment-4941572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHarrower Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 I don’t think Teus has anything to do with the wider story of the BA. The author needed to show Marines through the eyes of normal humans to give the reader context. It was just a clever way to bookend the story. I didn’t read anything else into it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341640-teus-devastation-of-baal-spoilers/#findComment-4941575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted November 26, 2017 Author Share Posted November 26, 2017 Guy confirmed pandion40s view on why Teus wasn't selected fyi.he was included to show the human side of Baal and to give guy a primaris character we could watch grow. Teus is important in that he is the character guy will use to explore BA primaris in the future. We don't know what rank he might be by Dark imperium time. But guy would at least start with him as a battlebrother Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341640-teus-devastation-of-baal-spoilers/#findComment-4941581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafen IX Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Guy confirmed pandion40s view on why Teus wasn't selected fyi.he was included to show the human side of Baal and to give guy a primaris character we could watch grow. Teus is important in that he is the character guy will use to explore BA primaris in the future. We don't know what rank he might be by Dark imperium time. But guy would at least start with him as a battlebrother This.Haley can do some amazing work with this character in the developing Baal system and the integration of both the new Primaris and Dante as Warden of the North. (Still love saying that) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341640-teus-devastation-of-baal-spoilers/#findComment-4941657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 It'll be interesting to see the growth of a new BA Primaris and his view on our old heroes and gives nice opportunities to slip in bits to explain how the whole Primaris creation process works for BA. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341640-teus-devastation-of-baal-spoilers/#findComment-4941665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Bumping this as I've just finished DoB. When I read about Teus, my first instinct was that he was the BA Primaris lieutenant...Tolmeron...then I googled him, and the model has a large scar on the face... I'm wondering if Tolmeron is Teus? Is there any background to Tolmeron? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341640-teus-devastation-of-baal-spoilers/#findComment-4979708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 He's just a random "character" model that got released, in the same way some of the Death Guard character models got names. It's an interesting theory, we'll have to wait to see if it works out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341640-teus-devastation-of-baal-spoilers/#findComment-4979742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted December 10, 2019 Author Share Posted December 10, 2019 Woop. That is all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341640-teus-devastation-of-baal-spoilers/#findComment-5444387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Woop. That is all. Any context to this? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341640-teus-devastation-of-baal-spoilers/#findComment-5444403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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