OPTIMVSCHRISTVS Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 It sounds like playing as a successor chapter will be pointlessly handicapping yourself- no access to most of the relics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 It sounds like playing as a successor chapter will be pointlessly handicapping yourself- no access to most of the relics. The relics are for successors as well. Only the special characters with a fix "Blood Angel" or "Flesh Tearer" faction keyword would be what you're missing out...however that's only a minor issue since you could always just use them as counts-as or treat your successor as differently painted Blood Angels and there would be literally no difference. Thrown Pommel 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPTIMVSCHRISTVS Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 It sounds like playing as a successor chapter will be pointlessly handicapping yourself- no access to most of the relics. The relics are for successors as well. Only the special characters with a fix "Blood Angel" or "Flesh Tearer" faction keyword would be what you're missing out...however that's only a minor issue since you could always just use them as counts-as or treat your successor as differently painted Blood Angels and there would be literally no difference. They said directly in the livestream that successors would have access to only 1 relic. I do hope you're right, of course,. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remtek Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Watching the stream I'll edit and add more along the way. -Death company will get a once per game bonus movement strat, unclear on specifics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverson Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 I thought they said it was a stratagem at the start of the game like the formation they had previously. Also 1 of the new relics is a sword. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 It sounds like playing as a successor chapter will be pointlessly handicapping yourself- no access to most of the relics. The relics are for successors as well. Only the special characters with a fix "Blood Angel" or "Flesh Tearer" faction keyword would be what you're missing out...however that's only a minor issue since you could always just use them as counts-as or treat your successor as differently painted Blood Angels and there would be literally no difference. They said directly in the livestream that successors would have access to only 1 relic. I do hope you're right, of course,. Maybe some successors get one specific relic? Would be weird if they had access to only one relic overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emissary Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Yeah, it sounds like the death company get a free move at the beginning of the game stratagem There is also a stratagem that gives blood angels characters and extra D3 attacks Black Rage is unchanged They were asked directly if the death company had an ability to pile in and attack twice. They didn't say they did. Not quite saying "No", but about as close as you can get. Also, they said all the unit options in the space marine codex are now available to the blood angels. Sounds like space marines +1 now. Thrown Pommel 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 (edited) A free move for Deathcompany? Mmmh. Could be pointless if we don't get the first turn since the enemy could simply blast them away then but I guess having an easy charge half the time is better than having to rely on getting off a 9" charge after deep striking all the time. Edited December 1, 2017 by sfPanzer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkni Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Primaris artificer armour spotted: Aothaine, Pendent and Panzer 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sockwithaticket Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 (edited) Is that not Gravis? it looks it looks like a BA-ified version of the Dark Imperium Gravis captain. On the top half at least.Other than the air support and DC marine no evidence of the regulars :( Edited December 1, 2017 by sockwithaticket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 It sounds like playing as a successor chapter will be pointlessly handicapping yourself- no access to most of the relics. indeed one of the few ball drops that move the codex below an "A" greade for me :( It sounds like playing as a successor chapter will be pointlessly handicapping yourself- no access to most of the relics. The relics are for successors as well. Only the special characters with a fix "Blood Angel" or "Flesh Tearer" faction keyword would be what you're missing out...however that's only a minor issue since you could always just use them as counts-as or treat your successor as differently painted Blood Angels and there would be literally no difference. Specifically noted as not the case afaik, sfPanzer :/ will have to be "counts as" It sounds like playing as a successor chapter will be pointlessly handicapping yourself- no access to most of the relics. The relics are for successors as well. Only the special characters with a fix "Blood Angel" or "Flesh Tearer" faction keyword would be what you're missing out...however that's only a minor issue since you could always just use them as counts-as or treat your successor as differently painted Blood Angels and there would be literally no difference. They said directly in the livestream that successors would have access to only 1 relic. I do hope you're right, of course,. Maybe some successors get one specific relic? Would be weird if they had access to only one relic overall. weird...and sad indeed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emissary Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Is that not Gravis? it looks it looks like a BA-ified version of the Dark Imperium Gravis captain. On the top half at least. Other than the air support and DC marine no evidence of the regulars It is gravis armor. They have also clarified that Blood Angels do not get Centurions. They also heavily hinted at a large angelic being around chrismas. IE, hint towards a primarch. Morticon 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Yeah, it sounds like the death company get a free move at the beginning of the game stratagem There is also a stratagem that gives blood angels characters and extra D3 attacks Black Rage is unchanged They were asked directly if the death company had an ability to pile in and attack twice. They didn't say they did. Not quite saying "No", but about as close as you can get. Also, they said all the unit options in the space marine codex are now available to the blood angels. Sounds like space marines +1 now. They dont, no :( They may have overstated the options- its not definitely "all". (iron clads, centurians etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedemptionNL Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Also, they said all the unit options in the space marine codex are now available to the blood angels. Sounds like space marines +1 now.Well not all of them, Centurions were already noted of not being included. I'm guessing it's just the vehicles that are being added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkni Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Is that not Gravis? it looks it looks like a BA-ified version of the Dark Imperium Gravis captain. On the top half at least. Yup. Artificer Gravis, ie. we get abs on ours. No nipple confirmation yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Well I guess everybody will be playing counts-as Blood Angels then. No clue why they felt the need to include such a stupid differenciation without including a full set of successor stuff as well lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPTIMVSCHRISTVS Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 I think I will be sticking with my idea of giving my successor chapter BA shoulder pads on the right to signify us operating as a legion again...and then just give them the <BLOOD ANGELS> keyword so I can use whatever relics I want. Close enough... Aothaine 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHarrower Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Death Company seem unchanged which sucks. Seems like my 2 favorite units Baal Preds and Death Company will languish this edition. :( Morticon 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 (edited) yeah the relics are BA specific, except a sword made from shards of Sanguinius' sword which apparently all chapters get. no centureons, some squads got more options than they used to have. intercessor sergeants still chainsword only death company can get a free move no changes to characters that are in space marine codex (other than they affect BA units not marine ones). we get the units already specified. doesnt look like we get a fight twice strategem, but do get one that allows a character to get d3 extra attacks (so... less impressive, probably cheaper) He made a number of lore blunders too. Edited December 1, 2017 by Blindhamster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Is that not Gravis? it looks it looks like a BA-ified version of the Dark Imperium Gravis captain. On the top half at least. Other than the air support and DC marine no evidence of the regulars It is gravis armor. They have also clarified that Blood Angels do not get Centurions. They also heavily hinted at a large angelic being around chrismas. IE, hint towards a primarch. Tell me about this Angelic being. Exactly what was said? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedemptionNL Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 New WH Community article is up: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/12/01/new-units-in-codex-blood-angels-dec-1gw-homepage-post-3/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHarrower Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 He did slip and say something about Sanguinius in stasis. He's coming back. Thrown Pommel 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emissary Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Is that not Gravis? it looks it looks like a BA-ified version of the Dark Imperium Gravis captain. On the top half at least. Other than the air support and DC marine no evidence of the regulars It is gravis armor. They have also clarified that Blood Angels do not get Centurions. They also heavily hinted at a large angelic being around chrismas. IE, hint towards a primarch. Tell me about this Angelic being. Exactly what was said? I don't remember word for word and it was kind of one of those statements they weren't trying emphasize. Basically he said something about a large angelic being coming around chrismas. Honestly, not a lot of information on it. Several people in the chat took it to mean the Lion. He did slip and say something about Sanguinius in stasis. He's coming back. Yup, he mentioned Sanguinius in statis during the question about giving Sanguinius a jump pack. He did say you couldn't because he was dead and in statis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Death Company seem unchanged which sucks. Seems like my 2 favorite units Baal Preds and Death Company will languish this edition. DC will still be viable and see there way into many lists on account of the synergy with the movement strat. But beyond that, vanvets are sadly obviously better. Give up a bolt pistol attack for 4 attacks always and 5++ (near a banner) rather than 6++ and you're left questioning why bother with DC. The Baal and the DC are set to be my biggest disappointments with an otherwise incredibly exciting and well designed dex. ( Dante will be the sad addition to round off a tri-fecta of fail :( ) But, still....the dex is shaping up to be miles better than most - including myself - would have imagined. Indefragable 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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