Morticon Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 except an aeronaught is traditionally a traveller in a hot air balloon. Flybrarian wins, :P Panzer 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341791-new-preview-out-on-wh-community/page/7/#findComment-4943945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleon Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 In small games, the flybarian as warlord with artisan on his stormbolter would be a lot of fun. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341791-new-preview-out-on-wh-community/page/7/#findComment-4943972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zynk Kaladin Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 In 5th I used to run the flybrarian with wings and shield supported by jump assault marines and jump death company. It worked well enough with a bit of finesse, though nothing compared to mephy back in the day. I can see a flybrarian doing ok if supported and being totally fun, but it's definitely not OP. Although for it's points cost I'd rather spend a bit more for Dante just to get those hit rerolls (assuming that rule sticks in the new 'dex). I can't get over how well Wings of Fire will may work with Dante because he can support almost any group of units at a whim. It's basically spend 1 cp to teleport move a prescience bubble almost anywhere. Here's some ideas: 1) Hide Dante back with the long range fire support to provide rerolls and alpha strike deterrent. WoF Dante to the front once your vanguard is in position. 2) Alpha strike Dante with a suicide squad toting special weapons. WoF him out of danger next turn. 3) Late game objective grabbing, as noted by others earlier in this topic. Kallas 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341791-new-preview-out-on-wh-community/page/7/#findComment-4943976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 May I remind you that not a week ago you were all depressed and fearful and now look at what you got ;) That Banner is pretty good, one of the things I am actually jealous of :D SM1981 and Bremon 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341791-new-preview-out-on-wh-community/page/7/#findComment-4943981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vahouth Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 I'm pretty stoked with the news so far. All I want now is for Mephiston to be the single most of feared unit our opponents see on the table. As it should be considering his backround. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341791-new-preview-out-on-wh-community/page/7/#findComment-4943982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 May I remind you that not a week ago you were all depressed and fearful and now look at what you got ;) That Banner is pretty good, one of the things I am actually jealous of :D You aren't jealous, you're going to come home to the BA and sanguinius' embrace brother. Bremon 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341791-new-preview-out-on-wh-community/page/7/#findComment-4943989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 May I remind you that not a week ago you were all depressed and fearful and now look at what you got That Banner is pretty good, one of the things I am actually jealous of No you may not. That would mean we lost hope at some point which would be preposterous for us Blood Angels! :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341791-new-preview-out-on-wh-community/page/7/#findComment-4943992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 May I remind you that not a week ago you were all depressed and fearful and now look at what you got That Banner is pretty good, one of the things I am actually jealous of No you may not. That would mean we lost hope at some point which would be preposterous for us Blood Angels! Search your feelings. It's the internet. You know it to be true :P Bremon 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341791-new-preview-out-on-wh-community/page/7/#findComment-4944019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 May I remind you that not a week ago you were all depressed and fearful and now look at what you got The after effects of year after year of neglect and poor meta-balance, i'm afraid. Come join us in the celebrations :D :P Spagunk, Bremon, Dolchiate Remembrancer and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341791-new-preview-out-on-wh-community/page/7/#findComment-4944029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Ghost IX Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 I am good with Flybrarian but Flynought or similar points out that it is the DN we are talking about. Just saying. On the people crying OP - definately premature. I am thinking folks are mostly concerned about the ability to get where you want to be to SMITE things. I am hearing GW is going to address smite spam in the March FAQ so don't run out and buy 5 just for that is my advice. I am curious to see our overall psychic powers list and how it's costed before I decide how good this thing is really. It's kinda GWs distratction carnifex on us at the moment - hehheh. Need Input - circuits teased with incomplete information today. If it looks like a duck does it still quack like a duck ? Who is on First, What is on Second, I Don't Know is on Third... SO... Think I am gonna go thru my Ancients and try to decide where I might be carrying that sweet sweet sounding Standard of Sacrifice. I think we could start a thread soonish just to talk what +1 to wound roll does to prefered CQC weapons and intended targets and such. Where is my abacus... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341791-new-preview-out-on-wh-community/page/7/#findComment-4944032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 I'd really love to see new models for Dante, Mephiston and the Sanguinor - although I'm aware it's possible to build your own. I just think Dante should be larger and more imposing. Mephiston does look cool still, however. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341791-new-preview-out-on-wh-community/page/7/#findComment-4944035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 I am curious to see our overall psychic powers list Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341791-new-preview-out-on-wh-community/page/7/#findComment-4944041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 It's kinda GWs distratction carnifex on us at the moment - hehheh. No not really. It's a character with less than 10 wounds. Something that can't be shot at can't be a Distraction Carnifex. ^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341791-new-preview-out-on-wh-community/page/7/#findComment-4944043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
swordofmandulis Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Regardless of Mephiston's warlord trait he is now a pretty terrifying prospect, he can be delivered by transport right in front of the enemy lines, move up to 1" out, then fly 12" which will likely be enough to find a gap in the enemy deployment, he can then reroll charges so is likely to get into whatever target he is after. He's then wounding a warhound titan on 2's. So is pretty much killing anything without an invuln. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341791-new-preview-out-on-wh-community/page/7/#findComment-4944068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 But he'll still die without support. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341791-new-preview-out-on-wh-community/page/7/#findComment-4944073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Regardless of Mephiston's warlord trait he is now a pretty terrifying prospect, he can be delivered by transport right in front of the enemy lines, move up to 1" out, then fly 12" which will likely be enough to find a gap in the enemy deployment, he can then reroll charges so is likely to get into whatever target he is after. He's then wounding a warhound titan on 2's. So is pretty much killing anything without an invuln. Dont think you have the disembarking rules quite right there, matey! Also, why is he getting reroll charges? :O Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341791-new-preview-out-on-wh-community/page/7/#findComment-4944074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Regardless of Mephiston's warlord trait he is now a pretty terrifying prospect, he can be delivered by transport right in front of the enemy lines, move up to 1" out, then fly 12" which will likely be enough to find a gap in the enemy deployment, he can then reroll charges so is likely to get into whatever target he is after. He's then wounding a warhound titan on 2's. So is pretty much killing anything without an invuln. Dont think you have the disembarking rules quite right there, matey! Also, why is he getting reroll charges? Wings of Sanguinius Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341791-new-preview-out-on-wh-community/page/7/#findComment-4944075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakeball74 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 I'm new to this so what does "OP" mean? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341791-new-preview-out-on-wh-community/page/7/#findComment-4944076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 I'm new to this so what does "OP" mean? It stands for overpowered. Basically what some folk cry out when they are up against something they can't deal with. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341791-new-preview-out-on-wh-community/page/7/#findComment-4944078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
templarphoenix Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 What are we thinking would be the best target initially for Death Visions? Captain, chaplain or lieutenant , keep in mind no primaris. Captain in terminator armour. and then paired with strike of the archangels... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341791-new-preview-out-on-wh-community/page/7/#findComment-4944082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Sometimes the enemy will only fall to one thing: Tactical Flybrarian Dreadnought Punch. Silverson and Frater Cornelius 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341791-new-preview-out-on-wh-community/page/7/#findComment-4944083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Regardless of Mephiston's warlord trait he is now a pretty terrifying prospect, he can be delivered by transport right in front of the enemy lines, move up to 1" out, then fly 12" which will likely be enough to find a gap in the enemy deployment, he can then reroll charges so is likely to get into whatever target he is after. He's then wounding a warhound titan on 2's. So is pretty much killing anything without an invuln. Dont think you have the disembarking rules quite right there, matey! Also, why is he getting reroll charges? Wings of Sanguinius Oh wow!! O_o didnt read the whole power. Thats awesome. Either way, 6" + 12" + charge is solid. Silas7 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341791-new-preview-out-on-wh-community/page/7/#findComment-4944089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Honestly if people really think the Flybrarian is overpowered then I wonder why T'au aren't a top tier army currently since the Quad Fusion Commander can just drop in and shoot 4 S8 AP-4 D1d6 at BS2+ which would be about as much damage as the Flybrarian would do against anything up to T7 with much less effort and without risking your Warlord. And they can do it with multiple ones even (and kinda have to due the rest of the Index being so overcosted). Just something that I forgot since I'm not doing the whole Commander spam and now remembered again. Crimson Ghost IX 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341791-new-preview-out-on-wh-community/page/7/#findComment-4944096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
swordofmandulis Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Pretty sure I got the rules right,think I just worded it badly Morticon 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341791-new-preview-out-on-wh-community/page/7/#findComment-4944103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Pretty sure I got the rules right,think I just worded it badly what I meant was disembark and move up to the enemy lines 1 inch from the enemy model. Then fly 12 with wings in the psychic phase, and then charge with a reroll due to wings. That is if they would not destroy the transport where Mephiston is riding in....which is most likely one of the highest priority targets if such a strategy could mess with the opponents plans. ^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341791-new-preview-out-on-wh-community/page/7/#findComment-4944111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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