Horus Heresy Weekender 2018

[Sircyn]

Have you got your ticket?

 

The event has risen my hardness for heresy, I'll be tarting up my White Scars for the occasion.

 

I'm hoping to get some in depth news on the future of the heresy and some shiny new reveals.

[Marshal Loss]

Horus Heresy and Necromunda Weekender this time around, so only like 50% Heresy evidently.

 

I will be in the UK at the time, but I won't be coming this year. No Alan Bligh and no Angelus mean that I don't think it's worth the money this time around. Hope the event is a success and it kicks off 2018 as an exciting year for Heresy.

[Corswain]

No Alan Bligh and no Angelus mean that I don't think it's worth the money this time around.

I actually think they might make a very big effort for exactly that reason. Hopefully, they sit down and do an honest and open explanation of the impact of Mr Blighs passing and their plans for moving forward.

 

Or maybe not, but FW at least has earned my benefit of the doubt for these events.

 

Valdor will be there right??? That’s something to look forward to.

[Marshal Loss]

I certainly wasn't accusing them of not putting effort in, but Alan Bligh was such an immense part of these events that I don't see it running to the same quality without him. The fact that they don't feel like they have enough Heresy content to fill an entire Weekender says about as much. It will still be a good time no doubt, but with many people taken off the heresy team and without the main attraction, it's lost a lot of its lustre for me.

[Corswain]

Fair enough, I can’t really argue with your logic but I’m still hoping.

It’s worth noting that I have never attended (wrong side of the world) and that my enjoyment of the event has always been vicariously through the reports of those who do attend. I don’t think that experience will change.

 

The Necromunda part does have me a little worried, although I’ve always thought day 2 was pretty light. Maybe 1 day Heresy, 1 day Necromunda.

 

Edit: @Marshal Loss - I see you’re in Australia too. You been to one? It’s on my to-do list but it hasn’t happened yet.

Edited November 29, 2017 by Corswain

[Marshal Loss]

I'm sure it will still be good, as there are so many brilliant and talented people working for FW, but I also don't think it's going to compare to past Weekenders. The rise of Warhammer Community and GW's strict control of release schedules also makes it feel less special. Just like Laurie Gouldings' departure left the BL seminars a bit leaderless and adrift this year, so too do I worry about the impact of Alan Bligh's loss on the Weekender itself. He was part of a team, of course, but Andy Hoare runs Specialist Games now, and the other writer (Neil?) seems to be a quiet chap that I never really saw around at any of the events I was there. Alan was always front and centre in pretty much every seminar and he drove every discussion, it all revolved around him and he was the most entertaining and fascinating, and that's why I just don't see it living up to past events.

 

I've been to two Weekenders, and both were amazing. Being able to do things like show your Praetor conversion to Alan Bligh and get colour schemes off him that haven't made it into books yet, listen to Mark Bedford talk about Dark Mechanicum, Tony Cottrell talk about nuns on bicycles, talk to Chris Wraight etc, were all well worth the effort put into going on both of my trips. When you put so much time, money, and effort into this hobby like many of us do, being able to meet the writers and designers and painters is just plain awesome.

 

Day 2 was never light though. From the internet it might look that way, as you generally see all the models (bar the upcoming seminar where they traditionally show a Primarch) on day 1, but 2 days worth of seminars always made the weekend feeling jam packed. Necromunda is cool but I don't want a 50/50 Necromunda weekender, it just doesn't interest me. Perhaps cutting down the Heresy content to 50% of the Weekender will ensure that the one day we have is brilliant, but even so, I won't go to this one. If it goes well I might make a reappearance in 2019.

[grand_master85]

I've only ever missed the second Weekender, and I wasn't sure I was interested in going to the 2018 event following the above points mentioned. However, as soon as I got that email I thought 'sod it' and booked my ticket. Hopefully they'll pull out all the stops to make this a great event (never know, they might not make an absolute hash of the sales area this time around either).

[m_r_parker]

There was part of me that was wondering whether there would be a HH event in 2018 - the HH team at FW have had quite the bad year, from Alan’s passing through to numerous sculptors and designers being pulled to other projects. Hence I’m not surprised it’s being labelled as the “HH & Necromunda Weekender”, they could have gone further and gone for HH + Specialist Games, but at least it’s going ahead and I don’t mind seeing some Necromunda there (much in the same way I quite liked seeing Adeptus Titanicus at this years event).

 

Tickets and hotel have been booked, and as always I will try to keep the frater here up to date with the various goings-on. Maybe we could get some of the B&C frater for drinks on the Friday?

[SixOfOne]

I won't be able to go, but I look forward to finding out the releases etc. and M_r_parker's updates/commentary. I presume that Valdor will be on sale/shown and that there might be pictures of Dorn's model. That is obviously mostly speculation though.

[StruManChu]

(Snip) they could have gone further and gone for HH + Specialist Games, but at least it’s going ahead and I don’t mind seeing some Necromunda there (much in the same way I quite liked seeing Adeptus Titanicus at this years event). (Snip)

 

Given that Titanicus and theoretically the new BFG are both set in the Age of Darkness/HH, could it be that a wider Specialist Games component may just be literally two or three Horus Heresy games AND Necromunda? I'd be ok with that, because I adore the setting, and the main 30k game seems to have lost a lot of its prior momentum since Book VII dropped.

 

After all, we are due for the release of Titanicus in early 2018 aren't we? Maybe they're going to announce another restructure with a bigger team doing a bunch of different stuff under the Horus Heresy umbrella.

 

A guy can hope... 

[carlisimo]

 

(Snip) they could have gone further and gone for HH + Specialist Games, but at least it’s going ahead and I don’t mind seeing some Necromunda there (much in the same way I quite liked seeing Adeptus Titanicus at this years event). (Snip)

 

Given that Titanicus and theoretically the new BFG are both set in the Age of Darkness/HH, could it be that a wider Specialist Games component may just be literally two or three Horus Heresy games AND Necromunda? I'd be ok with that, because I adore the setting, and the main 30k game seems to have lost a lot of its prior momentum since Book VII dropped.

 

BFG is just that right now - theoretical.  A few months ago Tony Cottrell talked about wanting to redo it, and wanting it to be set during the Heresy, but they hadn't started.  

 

I'm surprised and a little worried about FW releasing Titanicus early next year.  As an Epic player it's something I've been looking forward to, but they're stretching themselves thin.  Blood Bowl team releases have been too slow to keep the game alive, imo.  Necromunda's rules are incomplete and are going to be supplemented throughout 2018 (e.g. they've announced that the armory will be significantly expanded in Gang War book III).  Horus Heresy has needed a FAQ for at least a year, and arguably an errata after Book 7 upped the power levels a fair amount.  The Hobbit just got a FAQ so maybe that game is fine for a little while.

 

 

[ProsperoStands]

The big things they need to fix in HH book 7 are mostly unit issues. SW legion terminators need to be two wounds and cost a little less, adjust Magnus with something like two versions of him, one normal and one crazy Akira psyker mode for more points.

[Dantay VI]

They also need to get the Space Wolves models up to par & released too.

 

Fingers crossed we get a wip of the deathsworn and grey slayer kits. They hsd been touted as almost done months ago

[SixOfOne]

The big things they need to fix in HH book 7 are mostly unit issues. SW legion terminators need to be two wounds and cost a little less, adjust Magnus with something like two versions of him, one normal and one crazy Akira psyker mode for more points.

 

You really don't need two versions of Magnus. His whole thing is Psychic ability and if you give him a crazy profile then it'd have to cost about 700 points. It would also require a lot of additional testing. Corax's 2nd profile is only really intended for narrative battles anyway and doesn't change too much. The only things that need to be done is giving him a price increase, stopping the -1 to hit modifier working with Invisibility (Which is getting removed anyway) and reducing the power of Mind Wrath. Out of these though a price increase is the main one though. The same needs to happen with Russ.  Varagyr Terminators either need to cost less or have two wounds. A Justaerin is pretty much the same price right now so an additional wound is likely the best move. It's mainly Sekhmet terminators that need a price increase.

[1ncarnadine]

They also need to get the Space Wolves models up to par & released too.

 

Fingers crossed we get a wip of the deathsworn and grey slayer kits. They hsd been touted as almost done months ago

 

The CAD was finished (or close enough) for the Grey Slayer upgrades at the last Weekender, so... nearly a year! Crazy, but FW has had some hard knocks lately. But out of the following: 1) CAD being done may not be a good indicator for when something releases to public (they could also choose to advance other products through to general production first while sitting on some designs), 2) they did a lot of reworking or additions to the kits, or 3) we can blame the "one thing a week" release schedule to some extent, as it implies they may have held kits back to ensure there is always something in the release schedule. Or all of the above.

 

Deathsworn were very very early stages back then though, so they might be near the end of the Wolves' release window.

 

 

BFG is just that right now - theoretical.  A few months ago Tony Cottrell talked about wanting to redo it, and wanting it to be set during the Heresy, but they hadn't started.  

I'm surprised and a little worried about FW releasing Titanicus early next year.  As an Epic player it's something I've been looking forward to, but they're stretching themselves thin.  Blood Bowl team releases have been too slow to keep the game alive, imo.  Necromunda's rules are incomplete and are going to be supplemented throughout 2018 (e.g. they've announced that the armory will be significantly expanded in Gang War book III).  Horus Heresy has needed a FAQ for at least a year, and arguably an errata after Book 7 upped the power levels a fair amount.  The Hobbit just got a FAQ so maybe that game is fine for a little while.

 

This is something I've been worried about, too, and there was word from another forum (Penddraig at h30k) that BFG is in the works and will be set in Heresy. So they're definitely going all in on these Specialist Games... I love them, I just wonder if the market and FW studio can support all of them at once.

Edited November 30, 2017 by LetsYouDown

[Fire Golem]

I highly doubt Titanicus will be early 2018.

[Corswain]

They also need to get the Space Wolves models up to par & released too.

I forgot about those! Looking forward to seeing them, I’d be surprised if they weren’t ready for the weekender.