Could the next primarch be Leman Russ?

[lonewolf81]

there is definately a hint in there for the next primarch, could it be russ?

 

https://imgur.com/a/1T4ss

[Araith]

Meh. I've also seen the same picture enhanced to bring out a lion's head. So who knows?

[Karack Blackstone]

Some of the text mentions that a Fortress Monastery is possibly the Fang.

 

Please make of that what one will.

[Yoyo ninja]

Yea, sorry, it's dubious at best. I would love it to be Russ next, but we will just have to see.

[Guest Triszin]

People that stare at static tend to see different things.

 

if said person draws diagrams around what they see, others can see it aswell.

 

 

I'll wait till feb, not getting my hopes up

[lonewolf81]

There are so many things that add up, 

 

1. We are last of the marines to get a codex

 

2. magus waiting for his rival 

 

3. There is recent backstory with the events of the curse of the wulfen/wrath of mangus

 

Come on GW :P

[Guest]

People that stare at static tend to see different things.

 

if said person draws diagrams around what they see, others can see it aswell.

 

 

I'll wait till feb, not getting my hopes up

Since the SW book is in March, better wait until April.

 

But I don't see what this pictures is offering. I must lack sight, well guess that mean I am not a psyker.

Edited November 30, 2017 by Caldersson

[Yoyo ninja]

Now those are solid things that make me think we could be next. But GW have dashed my hopes before, so I'll wait and see without getting to excited.

[PeteySödes]

 

People that stare at static tend to see different things.

 

if said person draws diagrams around what they see, others can see it aswell.

 

 

I'll wait till feb, not getting my hopes up

Since the SW book is in March, better wait until April.

 

 

Do you have sauce for that?

[Guest]

 

 

People that stare at static tend to see different things.

 

if said person draws diagrams around what they see, others can see it aswell.

 

 

I'll wait till feb, not getting my hopes up

 

Since the SW book is in March, better wait until April.

 

Do you have sauce for that?

http://www.blacklibrary.com/coming-soon/march/ashes-of-prospero-ebook.html

[PeteySödes]

 

 

 

People that stare at static tend to see different things.

 

if said person draws diagrams around what they see, others can see it aswell.

 

 

I'll wait till feb, not getting my hopes up

Since the SW book is in March, better wait until April.

 

Do you have sauce for that?

http://www.blacklibrary.com/coming-soon/march/ashes-of-prospero-ebook.html

 

 

Very nice, thanks for the link!

[Bulwyf]

That book definitely sounds like the story of how Russ comes back, reemerging on Prospero after 10k years in the warp.

[MaveriK]

LOL seems interesting until I read who wrote it... low expectations now. I’m probably in the minority here but going back to Prospero as a story setting is getting old and repetitive at best. I’m one of the few here who probably thinks this whole thing with the 1k sons as our main enemy is kinda boring. I mean the events that took place during Warzone Fenris was cool, but to be honest I want to see the Sons of Russ clash against a new enemy and not always the same ones. It kinda just gets dull and unoriginal. Give me Wolves vs Night Lords or Wolves vs Necrons or even a story about Kaerls and bondsmen who travel with the wolves.

 

As for main topic. I kinda want Russ to be the last loyal primarch to show up. The guy who ushers in the wolf-time. For him to show up and then nothing major happens in the progression of the 40K storyline, defeats the purpose of his well... design. It’s like great we have him back. Now what? I’d rather have other primarchs show up before Russ both loyal and traitor and have their stories developed. I only say this out of selfishness because I want Russ to be the last to show up and turn the tide of war.

Edited December 1, 2017 by MaveriK

[Arentius]

The wolf time is for the wolves not the imperium, and with everything that’s happened it’s pretty much over for the wolves without a drastic time. Everything has been set for russes return.

 

In addition even the book blurb says the whole imperium is now at risk so even by your standard above it’s time for russ to arrive.

 

Russ turning up early can and will turn the tide of war because it will prevent chaos from further encroaching on imperial lands...in theory. No point him turning up once everything is already ashes (imo!)

[Karhedron]

Way back when Magnus first appeared, one of the more reliable rumour mongers (Hastings) claimed that he would be followed by Guilliman, Mortarion, Russ and Fulgrim. So far his predictions have panned out pretty well. I think Russ will be next and I think this is why the Wolf Codex has not emerged yet. I think they will come out in the same Spring release slot that Guilliman occupied last year.

 

 

Trying to discern anything from the original picture is like trying to draw pictures in the clouds so I wouldn't read too much into it. However there are other pieces of circumstantial evidence that Russ could be on the way.

 

As for the Wolf Time, the Wolves lost 2 Great Companies recently IIRC as well as taking heavy casaulties from Magnus' shenanigans and the 13th Black Crusade. The Imperium has basically been torn in half with Fenris poised right on the edge of the Cicatrix Maledictum. That sounds pretty Wolf Timey to me. ;)

[Guest]

I would rather have Russ show up earlier than later. Why? Because instead of him just showing up for a few battles we can see him fight a whole war. BL-Gods help us though and write him as more than a leashed berserker or mcwolf wolfstein.

 

It also means he is a key factor early on, allowing for some decent character development and maybe redefine the SWs.

 

I also think he is coming soon. Fenris was hurt, we lost a good amount of SW's against Magnus, 2 companies at Cadia, plus who knows what else between these times. I couldn't think of a lower point for the wolves.

[Jorin Helm-splitter]

I think there is a pretty decent chance that he is the next primarch released but I kinda hope of he isn't. Mainly because I think the lion or dorn would be a more interesting one to bring back. Russ probably isn't going to see the primaris as a big deal, and even if he and Guiliman don't get along there wouldn't be major consequences because of how small our chapter is. The others would allow for a more lot conflict and bring back some grimdark.

[Karhedron]

We haven't really seen any interaction between Russ and Guilliman in the HH novels that I can think of. He did not argue against the Codex (unlike Dorn) but he did just ignore it. I can imagine him doing the same again now, he will just go off and hit things leaving Guilliman to get on with the logistics and governing (which would probably suit him fine).

 

What will be more interesting is what he has been doing for the last 10K. One story is that eh went looking for something to heal the Emperor. Unless from his point of view he only entered the eye last Tuesday. 

[Deadnaughty]

Why would Russ and Guiliman not get along?

 

Russ is one of the Dauntless, those Guiliman believes can be relied on no matter the odds (Dorn, Sanguinius, Russ, Ferrus)

[Arentius]

Because Guilliman wrote the codex that Russ refused to follow

[Leif Bearclaw]

LOL seems interesting until I read who wrote it... low expectations now. I’m probably in the minority here but going back to Prospero as a story setting is getting old and repetitive at best. I’m one of the few here who probably thinks this whole thing with the 1k sons as our main enemy is kinda boring. I mean the events that took place during Warzone Fenris was cool, but to be honest I want to see the Sons of Russ clash against a new enemy and not always the same ones. It kinda just gets dull and unoriginal. Give me Wolves vs Night Lords or Wolves vs Necrons or even a story about Kaerls and bondsmen who travel with the wolves.

 

 

Nope, you're certainly not the only one. It further hurts the setting imo, doubling down on the 'small setting' feeling they've been cultivating, despite having an entire galaxy to play with.

 

As for the Wolf Time, the Wolves lost 2 Great Companies recently IIRC as well as taking heavy casaulties from Magnus' shenanigans and the 13th Black Crusade. The Imperium has basically been torn in half with Fenris poised right on the edge of the Cicatrix Maledictum. That sounds pretty Wolf Timey to me.

Thing is though, all that was over a century ago from the 'present' of new 40k. There's no reason why the Wolves should still be knackered. That was the one plus point of the time skip, it allowed for various Imperial factions to realistically recover and renew so they could remain proactive players in the ongoing story. But you wouldn't know they did a time jump, with how they seem to be handling the fluff. It's more like everyone just had to change their clocks by a century in some bizarre, 'galaxy saving time' stunt, but it might as well be 000.m42.

 

Why would Russ and Guiliman not get along?

 

Russ is one of the Dauntless, those Guiliman believes can be relied on no matter the odds (Dorn, Sanguinius, Russ, Ferrus)

Because the modern GW studio are bad writers, allergic to nuance, who's only opinions of Russ' character seems to be '  you, I won't do what you'll tell me!' and 'angry kill kill charge'?

 

On topic, I think the lack of a SW dex along with the BAs/DAs is the best argument for Wolves getting something soon. If we're just getting a copy/paste, no model, filler codex, there'd be no reason to hold it back. Which makes me think Russ is quite likely, as it would be strange for the Wolves to get new kits, in the age of returning Primarchs, and not get the Primarch. The real question though, is what kind of Russ are they going to produce, and will they   it up?

[Stoic Raptor]

Because Guilliman wrote the codex that Russ refused to follow

 

To be fair, Guilliman doesn't follow it any more, either. :D

[PeteySödes]

I can't shake the early rumors last year of, paraphrasing, "Russ will return but a lot of people won't be happy". I always read that as him coming back as a rejected design from the Underworld franchise.

 

I think the idea of an essentially loyalist demon primarch is pretty badass but I wouldnt want them to get too heavy handed on the wolfyness. Not holding my breath though.

[Arentius]

I can only pray they do Odin Russ and not Wulfen Russ

[SpiritFox22]

Honestly if Russ ends up coming back soon I honestly doubt we're going to get anything besides Wolfy McWolferson Wulfen Russ who's entire existence is being a beatstick.  Though that's just more my issue's with the 40k line of the wolves, when I read the fluff they were Vikings with respect to the deadliest thing on their planet the Wolves, but apparently "respect" turned into obsession when the sculptors got a hold of them.

 

Though if I could wish list how Russ came back I'd love it if he came back battered and scarred from 10k years in the warp.  Instead of being turned "murder-hobo" Wulfen, I'd honestly like to see Russ return maybe missing an arm, turning from Fenrir to Tyr, and being more level headed using what little of the 13th company to their fullest.