Havok13 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 The new stratagem "cunning of the wolf" can you only use this once or multiple times? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341900-new-stratagem/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karack Blackstone Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 What does it say, within its own writeup, how many Command Points is it, and it appears, if that's the shoot boltguns and equivalent weapons as if they were pistols, I personally don't know yet. I need to get Chapter Approved at some point soon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341900-new-stratagem/#findComment-4948038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havok13 Posted December 1, 2017 Author Share Posted December 1, 2017 It is the one where you can: Use this stratagem during deployment, when setting up a space wolves infantry unit. You can set up this unit on the hunt instead of placing it on the battlefield. It has a bit more to it but it's 1cp and does not state anything about using it only once. I think I need to re-read stratagem rules in the main rule book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341900-new-stratagem/#findComment-4948047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karack Blackstone Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 It is the one where you can: Use this stratagem during deployment, when setting up a space wolves infantry unit. You can set up this unit on the hunt instead of placing it on the battlefield. It has a bit more to it but it's 1cp and does not state anything about using it only once. I think I need to re-read stratagem rules in the main rule book. Then for each single Command Point you spend, you are able to put one Infantry unit as stated, "On the Hunt," and follow those rules as the Stratagem tells you. Thus, for each CP spent, that's 1 unit on the hunt you are allowed. Just remember, unless otherwise noted, CP's never recharge. There is the possibility that SW's may get a way to restore, or have a chance to restore, CP's once our Codex lands, apparently Q1 (Jan, Feb, Mar or so) of 2018. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341900-new-stratagem/#findComment-4948052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havok13 Posted December 1, 2017 Author Share Posted December 1, 2017 Just realised characters are also infantry. 15 man bloodclaw unit with ragnar can go on the hunt for 2cp and reroll charges! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341900-new-stratagem/#findComment-4948054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWolfLord Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Just realised characters are also infantry. 15 man bloodclaw unit with ragnar can go on the hunt for 2cp and reroll charges! That's right. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341900-new-stratagem/#findComment-4948139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The bushels Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Wulfen wulfen wulfen. Biggest problem is them getting into charge range, this gets you there without having to worry about them getting shot off the board if you go second. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341900-new-stratagem/#findComment-4948437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fang_Guard23 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 the only setback would be the matched play rule in which you can only use it once Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341900-new-stratagem/#findComment-4948488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havok13 Posted December 2, 2017 Author Share Posted December 2, 2017 the only setback would be the matched play rule in which you can only use it once Where is that stated? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341900-new-stratagem/#findComment-4948581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gherrick Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 the only setback would be the matched play rule in which you can only use it once This rule is often misunderstood. You can use the same strategem limited only by CP before round 1 begins. TheWolfLord and Havok13 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341900-new-stratagem/#findComment-4948591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arentius Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 the only setback would be the matched play rule in which you can only use it once This rule is often misunderstood. You can use the same strategem limited only by CP before round 1 begins. Indeed, rule states you may use a stratagem once per phase. If you do this before the game begins there are no phases Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341900-new-stratagem/#findComment-4948597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilkco Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 isn't Deployment a Phase though ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341900-new-stratagem/#findComment-4948835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arentius Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 The finicky bit is phases only officially start during a players turn. Deployment happens “pre game” Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341900-new-stratagem/#findComment-4949000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havok13 Posted December 2, 2017 Author Share Posted December 2, 2017 Looking forward to a codex stratagem that lets you "once per game in the charge phase all space wolves add 3 to their charge" I'm struggling getting 9 inch charge even with rerolls lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341900-new-stratagem/#findComment-4949111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nrthstar Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Wulfen and aggressors with Deathwolf popping in with them are my top picks. Both need the shot range Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341900-new-stratagem/#findComment-4956716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanPesci Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 the only setback would be the matched play rule in which you can only use it onceThis rule is often misunderstood. You can use the same strategem limited only by CP before round 1 begins. Indeed, rule states you may use a stratagem once per phase. If you do this before the game begins there are no phases 99% sure this is correct, I also play admech, and the stygies forgeworld have a similar strategem to infiltrate units. As it stands at the moment you can use it as many times as you have command points as it's before the battle so not in a phase (phases are subdivisions of a players actual turn...movement, shooting, charge etc). Big units of bloodclaws and ragnar could be useful with this, wulfen seem a very obvious choice too. Souped up plasma hunter squads wouldnt be too bad either to try grab objectives etc. Against a vehicle heavy enemy sticking a squad of multimelta long fangs into their backyard could also be fun (if very situational) :) Arentius 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341900-new-stratagem/#findComment-4956999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arentius Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 The reason Wulfen are so attractive is it means we don't need to spend 400 odd points on a transport for them so if we really want to be mean we can buy a second unit of wulfen! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341900-new-stratagem/#findComment-4957478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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