SkimaskMohawk Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 (edited) Just thought our Raptor friends would like to know (or any of us who swap to raptors for a shooty RG character), that some crazy how Issodon made it through the Forgeworld hikes un-molested. Honestly a bit baffling considering how strong he his, but I'll take what I can get after the treatment some of the other entries received. Edited December 2, 2017 by SkimaskMohawk Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341914-issodon-un-nerfed-in-ca/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnkyHamHam Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Glad to hear! RIP Thunderhawk... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341914-issodon-un-nerfed-in-ca/#findComment-4950045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorNese Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 To be honest, I'm really surprised they didn't nerf the storm cannon leviathan. That thing just kills anything, and 5 levy deathstars at 1850p are a thing now. But hey, guess it sells well... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341914-issodon-un-nerfed-in-ca/#findComment-4950163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
seriade Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 To have 5 levi you would need to take an additional 5 elite choices to meet the requirements for relic so that sort of discounts it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341914-issodon-un-nerfed-in-ca/#findComment-4950425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
point_Zer0 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 To have 5 levi you would need to take an additional 5 elite choices to meet the requirements for relic so that sort of discounts it. *heavy support choices Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341914-issodon-un-nerfed-in-ca/#findComment-4950548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claws and Effect Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 To have 5 levi you would need to take an additional 5 elite choices to meet the requirements for relic so that sort of discounts it. Not possible at 1850. Very doable at 2500. Just run 2 Spearheads and a Battalion and take naked Dev squads for the other 5 choices and 3 Scout squads for Troops. 4 Techmarines would both fill the HQ requirements and repair the dreads. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341914-issodon-un-nerfed-in-ca/#findComment-4950739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorNese Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 To have 5 levi you would need to take an additional 5 elite choices to meet the requirements for relic so that sort of discounts it.Not possible at 1850. Very doable at 2500. Just run 2 Spearheads and a Battalion and take naked Dev squads for the other 5 choices and 3 Scout squads for Troops. 4 Techmarines would both fill the HQ requirements and repair the dreads. IG mortar teams are heaper, and HS. Keyword Imperium is enough for that. Add a bare chapter master and lieutenant for all the rerolls and call it a day. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341914-issodon-un-nerfed-in-ca/#findComment-4952550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemondish Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Folks still using Sternguard with Issy? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341914-issodon-un-nerfed-in-ca/#findComment-4952891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nusquam Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Not surprising, he's a pure buff/shooty character. His buffs are good but no invul and he would fold in CC. I didn't expect him to change when Primarchs exist. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341914-issodon-un-nerfed-in-ca/#findComment-4953144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firenze Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Folks still using Sternguard with Issy? I use plasma gun deepstrikers and sternguard with an ancient with him. Its brutal, and I basically use it to nuke a priority target before moving off and securing the backline and hunkering down. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341914-issodon-un-nerfed-in-ca/#findComment-4960582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rcketmouse Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Is Master of Ambush Issodon’s warlord trait? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341914-issodon-un-nerfed-in-ca/#findComment-4964528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firenze Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Is Master of Ambush Issodon’s warlord trait? No, its a special rule. His Warlord Trait would be the Raven Guard one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341914-issodon-un-nerfed-in-ca/#findComment-4964744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nusquam Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Is Master of Ambush Issodon’s warlord trait? No, its a special rule. His Warlord Trait would be the Raven Guard one. Warlord traits are the one thing successors don't get forced on them actually. Stratagems and CT each have rules specific text that grants their successor access to them. There isn't a blanket successor rule. The warlord trait rules for named characters make it so must match their current chapter from the table if possible; Raptors isn't there and that's why Crimson Fists/Black Templar have their own while other successors don't. If there was a specific Raptors WLT Issodon would have to take it. It makes sense since not ever successor is just a reskinned version of their parent chapter. Raptors for example are more range-oriented. Firenze 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341914-issodon-un-nerfed-in-ca/#findComment-4965034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rcketmouse Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 (edited) So Issodon can take Storm of Fire to make Sternguard with special issue bolters AP-3 on a 5+ if you use the stratagem? Or Iron Resolve to help with his lack of Invuln? Edited December 21, 2017 by Rcketmouse Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341914-issodon-un-nerfed-in-ca/#findComment-4965397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firenze Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Is Master of Ambush Issodon’s warlord trait? No, its a special rule. His Warlord Trait would be the Raven Guard one. Warlord traits are the one thing successors don't get forced on them actually. Stratagems and CT each have rules specific text that grants their successor access to them. There isn't a blanket successor rule. The warlord trait rules for named characters make it so must match their current chapter from the table if possible; Raptors isn't there and that's why Crimson Fists/Black Templar have their own while other successors don't. If there was a specific Raptors WLT Issodon would have to take it. It makes sense since not ever successor is just a reskinned version of their parent chapter. Raptors for example are more range-oriented. So Issodon can take Storm of Fire to make Sternguard with special issue bolters AP-3 on a 5+ if you use the stratagem? Or Iron Resolve to help with his lack of Invuln? *Cue manical laughter* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341914-issodon-un-nerfed-in-ca/#findComment-4965721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nusquam Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Yeah it's been discussed in the tactics thread. Firenze 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341914-issodon-un-nerfed-in-ca/#findComment-4965812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rcketmouse Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Thanks for the replies and sorry for the repeat post, I didn’t see a dedicated Tactics thread, which is it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341914-issodon-un-nerfed-in-ca/#findComment-4966753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nusquam Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334817-new-issodon-rules-sneaky-peaky/ It was in an Issodon thread at least a few times. I had thought there was dedicated thread at one point... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/341914-issodon-un-nerfed-in-ca/#findComment-4966862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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